New Crusaders coach
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<p>I think the decision of Rennie and other aspiring AB coaches will depend on whether Hansen extends his contract beyond 2017.</p>
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<p>The other wildcard is Foster. I feel uneasy about him replacing Hansen, but if Hansen feels strongly and endorses him (must like Ted did for him) then you imagine it would be a very difficult situation for the NZRU to go another direction.</p>
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<p>Ideally you would open up a position on in the AB set up as assistant this year on par with what McLean was in 2012-13 and can perhaps transition one of the guys in there, but with Smith back full time it does seem to be a full house.</p>
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<p>If Foster has no desire to be head coach (which could be the case - Smith doesn't either) then they should be transitioning a potential heir apparent soon - regardless of if Hansen stays or goes. It's worth having a new strong voice after the RWC to keep things fresh too.</p> -
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<p>Had a moment and totally forgot about Mitch's tour games.</p>
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<p>Considering McCaw spent the better part of his career at AB level being coached by a former headmaster and average club player, getting scrum coaching from a former pie shop owner and getting ball handling tips from a guy who probably hadn't watched a game of code 5 years before being appointed and getting mental skills tips from Gilbert Enoka - I'd say non ABs have plenty to offer and are absolutely able to teach the elite players a lot.</p>
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<p>It's very clear across a wide range of sports that the elite coaches are predominantly career coaches or journeymen - Belichik, Ferguson, Popovich, Henry etc. Extremely talented players rarely make good coaches - <strong>which bodes well for Razor's prospects</strong>.</p>
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<p>Had a moment and totally forgot about Mitch's tour games.</p>
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<p>Considering McCaw spent the better part of his career at AB level being coached by a former headmaster and average club player, getting scrum coaching from a former pie shop owner and getting ball handling tips from a guy who probably hadn't watched a game of code 5 years before being appointed and getting mental skills tips from Gilbert Enoka - I'd say non ABs have plenty to offer and are absolutely able to teach the elite players a lot.</p>
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<p>It's very clear across a wide range of sports that the elite coaches are predominantly career coaches or journeymen - Belichik, Ferguson, Popovich, Henry etc. Extremely talented players rarely make good coaches - which bodes well for Razor's prospects.</p>
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<p>My point is not whether people who are not ex-pro players have much to offer, it is that less-and-less they probably won't get much of a chance. Seems to me that the NZ rugby pathwa is pretty narrow and I don't see much how you can widen it. But, maybe the NZRU and the unions pay more attention to promising candidates who go through their coaching courses than what I think.</p>
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<p>I'd do wonder at how much actual coaching some of the guys you've mentioned actually do e.g Sir Alex.</p>
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<p>Tennis provides an interesting counterpoint - Djok/Becker; Fed/Edberg; Murray/Lendl-Mauresmo; Rafa/Uncle Toni.</p> -
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<p>My point is not whether people who are not ex-pro players have much to offer, it is that less-and-less they probably won't get much of a chance. Seems to me that the NZ rugby pathwa is pretty narrow and I don't see much how you can widen it. But, maybe the NZRU and the unions pay more attention to promising candidates who go through their coaching courses than what I think.</p>
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<p>I'd do wonder at how much actual coaching some of the guys you've mentioned actually do e.g Sir Alex.</p>
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<p>Tennis provides an interesting counterpoint - Djok/Becker; Fed/Edberg; Murray/Lendl-Mauresmo; Rafa/Uncle Toni.</p>
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<p>I spoke to someone who coached upto super level and is not a former player, he said that is the toughest part is ensuring you stand out above those ex players that are vying for the same job...sure your CV is better, but that isn't always what wins the day.</p>
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<p>I guess there is an argument that the NZRU is trying to help players once their career finishes too, giving them a pathway to another career still in rugby...whereas the other guy is likely already employed.</p>
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<p>My point is a bit different though.</p>
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<p>If you're coaching club rugby as an amateur - how do you demonstrate that you understand and are capable of coaching a professional team at NPC level if you've never been in a professional rugby environment?</p>
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<p>It seems to me that it's pretty hard for me to demonstrate I'm the best man to coach (or assistant coach) the Mako$, when Leon MacDonald can point to 10+ years of working in a professional rugby environment as a player and I've got none.</p>
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<p>tell them you are a regular here?</p>
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<p>My point is a bit different though.</p>
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<p>If you're coaching club rugby as an amateur - how do you demonstrate that you understand and are capable of coaching a professional team at NPC level if you've never been in a professional rugby environment?</p>
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<p>It seems to me that it's pretty hard for me to demonstrate I'm the best man to coach (or assistant coach) the Mako$, when Leon MacDonald can point to <strong>10+ years of working in a professional rugby environment as a player</strong> and I've got none.</p>
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<p>Hard but not impossible.</p>
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<p>I guess that's how Justin Marshall got a job as a commentator "look I've played Professional rugby for 10 years I must know the rules of the game" ~ he played rugby when the rules were you don't need control of the ball to score a try just downward pressure.</p> -
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<p>I guess that's how Justin Marshall got a job as a commentator "look I've played Professional rugby for 10 years I must know the rules of the game" ~ he played rugby when the rules were you don't need control of the ball to score a try just downward pressure.</p>
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<p>Hard row to hoe for budding Keith Quinns and TP McLeans these days, as well. </p> -
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<p>tell them you are a regular here?</p>
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<p>I did.</p>
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<p>They said, "which of those morons are you?" and dished out a quick beating.</p>
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<p>Must have thought I was Nepia!
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<p>I did.</p>
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<p>They said, "which of those morons are you?" and dished out a quick beating.</p>
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<p>Must have thought I was Nepia! :)</p>
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<p>"You're beardie? Well, we're very interested indeed. We've been big fans of his comments on Nelson Bays rugby for years. What? You're Chris B? Security, get him out of here."</p> -
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<p>I did.</p>
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<p>They said, "which of those morons are you?" and dished out a quick beating.</p>
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<p><strong>Must have thought I was Nepia!</strong> :)</p>
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<p> :mad1: Go away for a week and this is what I have to return to ....</p> -
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<p>As for the Crusaders coach, I'd be happy with a team consisting of Schmidt (hopefully he finds his Crusaders version of Tasesa Lavea) :)</p>
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<p>I don't think Crusaders will be signing Isaiah West any time soon.</p>
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<p>Ihaia's Jewish cousin? </p>
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<p>Forgot to add, that Hammettuer would complete that coaching team as well.</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/81158832/robertson-emerges-as-favourite-to-replace-blackadder'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/81158832/robertson-emerges-as-favourite-to-replace-blackadder</a></p>
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<p><span style="color:#1f497d;"><span style="font-family:calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Bonehead Robertson… great</span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#1f497d;"><span style="font-family:calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">As I said in the other thread.................Never sighted at club rugby (probably too busy surfing) just picks his squads exclusively from Lincoln, Christchurch and Old boys.</span></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#1f497d;"><span style="font-family:calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:11pt;">Can’t even get the under 20’s into the semi finals.</span></span></span></p> -
<p>It's Robertson - from an emailed press release:</p>
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New Zealand Rugby and the BNZ Crusaders are pleased to announce that Scott Robertson will replace Todd Blackadder at the helm of the Crusaders coaching team from 2017.<br>
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Blackadder announced at the start of the 2016 season that it would be his last, sparking the process to appoint his successor. Former Crusaders, Canterbury and All Blacks loose forward Scott Robertson has been confirmed as the successful candidate to lead the team from 2017 through to 2019.<br>
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Robertson is the current Head Coach of the Canterbury national provincial team, taking the job in 2013 and guiding the team to two Premiership titles in that role so far. He also assisted the team to five successive titles between 2008 and 2012, first as the Assistant Forwards Coach for four years and then as the Assistant Coach in 2012.<br>
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He has also enjoyed success in his first year as Head Coach of the New Zealand Under 20 team, claiming victory at the 2015 Under 20 World Championship. Prior to that he was the forwards coach in 2014. Robertson is currently with the NZ Under 20 squad in Manchester.<br>
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BNZ Crusaders CEO Hamish Riach says Robertson has the credentials and vision to be an outstanding Investec Super Rugby coach.<br>
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“Scott is a highly skilled coach who we believe is absolutely ready for the step up to Super Rugby. He has been an important contributor to the incredible success that the Canterbury team has enjoyed over the past eight years and he has also earned respect on the world stage as Head Coach of the New Zealand Under 20 team,†Mr Riach said.<br>
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“We had a highly contested process with some exceptional candidates, so that made it a very difficult decision in some ways. However, we are very excited about what Scott Robertson offers this team and thrilled to be appointing him to the role.â€<br>
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Robertson said taking on the Head Coach role would be like a dream come true.<br>
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“This is a team I have played for, am passionate about and looking forward to leading. The Head Coach of the Crusaders is regarded as one of the best jobs in the world, so I couldn’t be more excited to be taking it on.<br>
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“When I think about the remarkable men who have done the job before me, including current Head Coach Todd Blackadder, I am humbled and honoured to be stepping into their shoes. The previous and current coaching teams have built an impressive legacy and I take the responsibility of continuing and building on that legacy very seriously. The playing group is a great bunch of men who I am excited to work with; I will give everything to this role and am ready to take on the opportunity,†Robertson said.<br>
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New Zealand Rugby General Manager Rugby Neil Sorensen welcomed Robertson’s appointment as an exciting new chapter for the Crusaders.<br><br>
“I’m delighted for Scott and for Crusaders and Canterbury fans who I am sure will also celebrate his appointment.<br><br>
“The appointment process was an incredibly tough one with high quality candidates. Scott will be a great addition to the Crusaders and New Zealand Rugby families. He is highly regarded as a great communicator and strategist and players thrive under his leadership,†Sorensen said.<br>
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Robertson will continue in his role as Head Coach of the Canterbury team for the 2016 Mitre 10 Cup season, before starting in his new job.<br>
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A process to complete the makeup of the Crusaders 2017 coaching team will take place at the end of the current season.</blockquote>
