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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Must be a Tauranga thing.
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@mariner4life said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Must be a Tauranga thing.
Holy Hell and all I thought Bridges was guilt of was an off colour joke.
Must be a Tauranga thing.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
I've met Bridges as in proper sit round table discussions as opposed to a handshake meet and greet. He's a vain, smug, spoiled little child of a man.
He's the first politician I'd met who made me look at Winston with more forgiving eyes.
Hopefully his time in the wilderness has taught him some lessons, but I doubt it. He was good in the first few weeks of the pandemic but he soon reverted to type which is the sort of bluster and BS that Peters built a career on. Must be a Tauranga thing.
I don't think he is what National need to lead them back from the precipice. they really need to get their shit together. We need a functioning opposition. Seymour's doing a great job but ACT are still a minor party.
The fact that he wrote a book is phenomenal. I'd rather shit in my hands and clap while reading Toni Street's book, than read Bridges' book...
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Dr Reti fronting a press conference, and the opening statement was very brief - there was an urgent caucus meeting called following the press release, motion of no confidence was successful, Dr Reti automatically interim leader until leadership contest will be held at next Caucus meeting on Tuesday. Also a lot of answers along the lines of what happens in Caucus, stays in Caucus, and not discussing conversations had with colleagues, which is fair enough.
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@godder said in NZ Politics:
Dr Reti fronting a press conference, and the opening statement was very brief - there was an urgent caucus meeting called following the press release, motion of no confidence was successful, Dr Reti automatically interim leader until leadership contest will be held at next Caucus meeting on Tuesday. Also a lot of answers along the lines of what happens in Caucus, stays in Caucus, and not discussing conversations had with colleagues, which is fair enough.
Painful questioning. Can't there be better system than yelling over each other?
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@godder said in NZ Politics:
Dr Reti fronting a press conference, and the opening statement was very brief - there was an urgent caucus meeting called following the press release, motion of no confidence was successful, Dr Reti automatically interim leader until leadership contest will be held at next Caucus meeting on Tuesday. Also a lot of answers along the lines of what happens in Caucus, stays in Caucus, and not discussing conversations had with colleagues, which is fair enough.
Painful questioning. Can't there be better system than yelling over each other?
So this! Barry is a tool too!
They should all have a number and then have a random number generator for who's turn it is to ask a question
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@godder said in NZ Politics:
Dr Reti fronting a press conference, and the opening statement was very brief - there was an urgent caucus meeting called following the press release, motion of no confidence was successful, Dr Reti automatically interim leader until leadership contest will be held at next Caucus meeting on Tuesday. Also a lot of answers along the lines of what happens in Caucus, stays in Caucus, and not discussing conversations had with colleagues, which is fair enough.
Painful questioning. Can't there be better system than yelling over each other?
Jessica then Tova
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@godder said in NZ Politics:
Dr Reti fronting a press conference, and the opening statement was very brief - there was an urgent caucus meeting called following the press release, motion of no confidence was successful, Dr Reti automatically interim leader until leadership contest will be held at next Caucus meeting on Tuesday. Also a lot of answers along the lines of what happens in Caucus, stays in Caucus, and not discussing conversations had with colleagues, which is fair enough.
Painful questioning. Can't there be better system than yelling over each other?
Even when experienced ministers (either side) move around the room in a reasonably orderly fashion, they still get reporters trying to interject their questions (Barry Soper was particularly bad on Monday, but he's not the only one by any stretch).
VC e.g. Zoom at least has mute with a signal (a hand normally) and/or text chat so the questions can be gone through in a decent order.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
I've met Bridges as in proper sit round table discussions as opposed to a handshake meet and greet. He's a vain, smug, spoiled little child of a man.
That's quite funny as I've only seen him walking down the street and judging solely by appearances that's him to a tee.
Looked like he should be a used car salesman or real estate agent that specialises in slumlords.
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Interested if anyone's opinion on Collins' alleged behaviour while in Key's govt has changed now? The Dirty Politics accusations were a bit OTT but the substance makes plenty of sense if this is how she operates.
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@smudge said in NZ Politics:
@tim Considering the Herald is now reporting that the slighted MP, Jacqui Dean, complained about it at the time five years ago and Bridges was spoken to by then-leader Bill English, then abso-fucking-lutely.
Jacqui is in the Class of 2005 alongside Judith and is very much a Collins fan.
I predict this will simply hasten the demise of Collins, and it will backfire badly on her.
your post aged well. I don't often get to say that in TSF (about posts in general, I hasten to add).
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@godder said in NZ Politics:
Dr Reti fronting a press conference, and the opening statement was very brief - there was an urgent caucus meeting called following the press release, motion of no confidence was successful, Dr Reti automatically interim leader until leadership contest will be held at next Caucus meeting on Tuesday. Also a lot of answers along the lines of what happens in Caucus, stays in Caucus, and not discussing conversations had with colleagues, which is fair enough.
Painful questioning. Can't there be better system than yelling over each other?
Maybe Get Smart Cones of Silence that descend on cue from the ceiling or a sliding glass panel?
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
So Barry Soper just repeated what Bridges reportedly said. It wasn't even said to the MP in question, she just overheard it.
Bridges was talking about him and his wife trying for a daughter and made a joke about have to girl you have to go a little more shallow.
FFS, a mildly off colour joke she overheard.
thank you I wondered what it was. Seems pretty steep to dismiss Bridges for that but my reading is the real problem was not involving the Shadow Cabinet in the decision? This doesn't just look bad for Collins but also for National. I hope they can bounce back and a good start to have an interim leader for breathing space.
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@nostrildamus said in NZ Politics:
@smudge said in NZ Politics:
@tim Considering the Herald is now reporting that the slighted MP, Jacqui Dean, complained about it at the time five years ago and Bridges was spoken to by then-leader Bill English, then abso-fucking-lutely.
Jacqui is in the Class of 2005 alongside Judith and is very much a Collins fan.
I predict this will simply hasten the demise of Collins, and it will backfire badly on her.
your post aged well. I don't often get to say that in TSF (about posts in general, I hasten to add).
I have a few spies who feed me well on the National Party politics front. Although most of us didn't have a clue how today was going to pan out.
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did someone feed Judith some shitty intel or has someone set her up?
How did she not see this playing out poorly for her? She doesnt seem that daft to do something which carried such a high risk of blow back??
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@taniwharugby
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Even if the serious tenor of her allegations could be credibly sustained, by bypassing caucus and mis-characterising the position of the National Party board, Collins destroyed any lingering trust, confidence, and finally, fear, that her MPs had.If her political kamikaze job succeeds in torpedoing Bridges’ chances, it will be one last entry on her list of confirmed kills as leader, a list that is almost farcically lopsided in favour of dispatching her own MPs rather than government ministers.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
did someone feed Judith some shitty intel or has someone set her up?
How did she not see this playing out poorly for her? She doesnt seem that daft to do something which carried such a high risk of blow back??
The answer is her judgement or political instincts are basically pretty shit. Good to see the back of her. But....I hope the next leader is better.
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