Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@snowy I've posted it elsewhere. That petition is pretty obtuse
WTF does "Just two fully vaccinated travellers in MIQ have tested positive later than day 8 since August 23" mean? Why have they chosen eight days? How many have tested positive before day eight?
Not trying to ignore the plight of those waiting to get into MIQ, but it's symptomatic of National's wooly headed thinking on Covid.
Their own site is contradictory. It still has their plan for a refined MIQ up - so not ending MIQ at all. In addition it has their latest plan - light on detail as with every politician.
If you come from certain nominated countries, are double vaxed and have a negative test result you can enter without any issues. Otherwise you isolate at home for 7 days.
It's not that different from what Labour announced except for the timeframe - which of course National will never be bound by. Pure politicking with no prospect of a meaningful result.
Potential issues:
Immediately stops containment within the Auckland region
People breaking home isolation rules
Ignores the possibility of contracting the virus en route (which we know has happened a lot)I'm not supporting the status quo or being a Stephen Hendry but it's so easy to be a nay sayer when you know you'll never be called to account. This petition is simply grandstanding and National know it. It's meaningless except maybe as a way to vent frustration.
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@snowy Pretty much my thinking too. I know it is pure politicking without any substance but they are the only ones attempting to put pressure on so I "signed it". First time I have had anything to do with that party. Ardern just smiles and says, "be kind" while her policies are less than kind.
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@tim so 'naki, Napier and Gisborne...be that bloody Three Waters thing!
Seriously though, concerning, ideally it just creeps out into our communities...surely it cant have been in our communities too long without detection?
Two new cases of Covid-19 in Kaitaia have been announced on Friday afternoon on the Northland District Health Board’s Facebook page.
This brings the total number of cases in Northland during the Delta outbreak to 17, with nine recovered and eight active.
Local district councillor Felicity Foy said: “I have concerns for the new Covid cases because I understand they’re not vaccinated.”
Foy is worried about the spread of Covid-19 in the Far North as there are limited health services and long travel distances.
Her message to the community was this: “Either get the vaccination or get the immunity from getting Covid, I know which one I’d rather have.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@tim so 'naki, Napier and Gisborne...be that bloody Three Waters thing!
Seriously though, concerning, ideally it just creeps out into our communities...surely it cant have been in our communities too long without detection?
Two new cases of Covid-19 in Kaitaia have been announced on Friday afternoon on the Northland District Health Board’s Facebook page.
This brings the total number of cases in Northland during the Delta outbreak to 17, with nine recovered and eight active.
Local district councillor Felicity Foy said: “I have concerns for the new Covid cases because I understand they’re not vaccinated.”
Foy is worried about the spread of Covid-19 in the Far North as there are limited health services and long travel distances.
Her message to the community was this: “Either get the vaccination or get the immunity from getting Covid, I know which one I’d rather have.
I feel like this is the place for the Winter is Coming memes, but with Covid.
My totally unscientific prediction is that Cabinet will set a D-Day in December - the country is likely to be well past 80% double dose by end of November, and the laggards will be the small DHBs.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@tim so 'naki, Napier and Gisborne...be that bloody Three Waters thing!
Gold!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy Yeah. I don't disagree with you but this publicity whoring by National doesn't move us forward even a millimeter.
Disagree. They are part of the pressure that is forcing the government to backpedal.
Put aside your dislike of National for a minute, it doesn’t have to a perfect alternative, the pressure just needs to stop Labour sleep walking to disaster.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Might be time for the army to go around and offer people their choice of shot - Pfizer or Glock.
cements our status as a liberal western democracy.
I'm really concerned about how people are turning on the non-vaxxed. I'm enthusiastically double vaxxed, but a fair proprtion of our societ are about to be properly excluded. I can't see this ending well - they aren't going to get vaxxed, and society is turning against them.
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@tim said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I do wonder how effective the lockdowns would have been if the government sent every household N95 masks.
The problem was compliance among a segment of society who weren't interested in following rules. Would have been more effective to pay them to follow the rules, but not remotely a principled stand, so I can see why that didn't happen.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@tim said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I do wonder how effective the lockdowns would have been if the government sent every household N95 masks.
The problem was compliance among a segment of society who weren't interested in following rules. Would have been more effective to pay them to follow the rules, but not remotely a principled stand, so I can see why that didn't happen.
That pesky freedom eh. Off to the gulags!