Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@rapido said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We can all get behind an underdog story like this.
Like he said, he can use his privilege to help others getting screwed right now.
I hope people look past his privilege to see him shining a light on the farcical situation in MIQ right now
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@billy-tell said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Fckn joke given Covid is already in nz.
(The Blessed Saint) Cindy would say that Delta is pretty much restricted to Auckland and MIQ is designed to stop it spreading to other parts of the country until such time as they are sufficiently prepared to cope with it (22nd century)
After all there would be no Delta in NZ without filthy Johnny Foreigner - that is still a popular pov amongst many. There are still a sizeable number of people who would shut the Border down completely as a small price to pay for living at Level 1. I'm NOT one of them
Plus doomsayers like Stephen Hendry are all over the media. Today he's on about we will need to be in the Red zone for most of next year even at 90% because look at the UK. Hundred's dying every day which extrapolates to 20+ every day in NZ. Oh the humanity.
If I had my way he'd be banned from every media outlet in NZ. Damn free speech!!!!!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@billy-tell said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Fckn joke given Covid is already in nz.
(The Blessed Saint) Cindy would say that Delta is pretty much restricted to Auckland and MIQ is designed to stop it spreading to other parts of the country until such time as they are sufficiently prepared to cope with it (22nd century)
After all there would be no Delta in NZ without filthy Johnny Foreigner - that is still a popular pov amongst many. There are still a sizeable number of people who would shut the Border down completely as a small price to pay for living at Level 1. I'm NOT one of them
I'd be interested to know what the prevailing feeling is in the country now. A year ago the majority were in favour of isolation. Now I'd expect that has flipped around. Or maybe those outside Auckland are happy to live their best non lockdown life?
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@canefan Last poll I saw still had majority in favour of the governments stance.
If Akl was reasonably blase until Delta hit why wouldn't the rest of NZ be now? Especially when feed a diet of We are doomed liberally sprinkled with a garnish of Fuck We are AMAZING - the envy of the world.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder Completely understand that but there was a need for strong leadership to avoid the current situation. You wrote, "if the only loss is overseas travel, that's just not that important to most NZers". but I think NZers are beginning to understand the absolute misery the MIQ is causing to a lot of people. The media are starting to report it at last and the National Party are jumping on it to gain cheap political points.
I think NZ has gone from being the darling of the COVID response to be quickly becoming a source of amusement around the world. Life is getting back to relative normality in a lot of places (the new normal) but NZ seems stuck forever in 2020. People have understood the misery of MIQ for most of the time since Covid arrived - there has been no shortage of stories about the inequities and difficulties caused, whether it's temporary visa holders on the wrong side of the border when the drawbridge went up, NZers stuck overseas or other issues. We had the Aussie bubble, and it is a major cause of the current MIQ misery, but even that just doesn't resonate that much with people.
The government had a broad transition plan from Sir David Skegg that would have got us back to less MIQ and lockdowns, and more overseas travel and normality based on high levels of vaccination, but Delta hit 3 days after it was released. If the cabinet decision was to develop a timetable to reduce MIQ (and it was), I can see why building an MIQ facility or somehow finding more rooms wasn't a big priority.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Plus doomsayers like Stephen Hendry are all over the media. Today he's on about we will need to be in the Red zone for most of next year even at 90% because look at the UK. Hundred's dying every day which extrapolates to 20+ every day in NZ. Oh the humanity.
Fuckin’ A. He should stick to snooker. I remember his 147 against Ronnie O’Sullivan, a thing of beauty. But his Covid modelling isn’t to the same standard.
Edit: Your sentiments are spot on though...
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Last poll I saw still had majority in favour of the governments stance.
If Akl was reasonably blase until Delta hit why wouldn't the rest of NZ be now? Especially when feed a diet of We are doomed liberally sprinkled with a garnish of Fuck We are AMAZING - the envy of the world.
I’ve struggled with this preoccupation of the media over here. Why the need to be the envy of the world? It’s not a competition, there’s no prizes that matter except that we are safer than we would be otherwise. It’s such a cultural cringe, I wish they’d give it a rest.
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@jc said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Last poll I saw still had majority in favour of the governments stance.
If Akl was reasonably blase until Delta hit why wouldn't the rest of NZ be now? Especially when feed a diet of We are doomed liberally sprinkled with a garnish of Fuck We are AMAZING - the envy of the world.
I’ve struggled with this preoccupation of the media over here. Why the need to be the envy of the world? It’s not a competition, there’s no prizes that matter except that we are safer than we would be otherwise. It’s such a cultural cringe, I wish they’d give it a rest.
Mate, you should see how we react ….
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
People have understood the misery of MIQ for most of the time since Covid arrived - there has been no shortage of stories about the inequities and difficulties caused, whether it's temporary visa holders on the wrong side of the border when the drawbridge went up, NZers stuck overseas or other issues. We had the Aussie bubble, and it is a major cause of the current MIQ misery, but even that just doesn't resonate that much with people.
Yep, it would be convenient to pin it on the media that "NZers are beginning to understand the absolute misery the MIQ is causing to a lot of people. The media are starting to report it at last". The more depressing reality is that they've been reporting it all along, to mainly deaf and disinterested ears.
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Dr McElnay says there are 163 new COVID-19 cases, including 159 in Auckland and four in Waikato.
There is also a second death of someone isolating at home with COVID-19. They were located in Mt Eden and were recently treated in hospital. Both deaths reported this week are being investigated as part of a review by Ministry of Health and Auckland DHBs.
There are 69 people in hospital with COVID-19. Six of these are in ICU or HDU
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Another treatment added to the toolkit.
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If any of you poor buggers stuck overseas want to get rid of MIQ the national party have a petition to get rid of it. Must be vaxed, negative test, etc.
I'm not particularly pro one party or the other, but I have seen the awful results of MIQ on people and many of you on here not being able to get home, so here it is:
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@snowy I've posted it elsewhere. That petition is pretty obtuse
WTF does "Just two fully vaccinated travellers in MIQ have tested positive later than day 8 since August 23" mean? Why have they chosen eight days? How many have tested positive before day eight?
Not trying to ignore the plight of those waiting to get into MIQ, but it's symptomatic of National's wooly headed thinking on Covid.
Their own site is contradictory. It still has their plan for a refined MIQ up - so not ending MIQ at all. In addition it has their latest plan - light on detail as with every politician.
If you come from certain nominated countries, are double vaxed and have a negative test result you can enter without any issues. Otherwise you isolate at home for 7 days.
It's not that different from what Labour announced except for the timeframe - which of course National will never be bound by. Pure politicking with no prospect of a meaningful result.
Potential issues:
Immediately stops containment within the Auckland region
People breaking home isolation rules
Ignores the possibility of contracting the virus en route (which we know has happened a lot)I'm not supporting the status quo or being a Stephen Hendry but it's so easy to be a nay sayer when you know you'll never be called to account. This petition is simply grandstanding and National know it. It's meaningless except maybe as a way to vent frustration.