Super Rugby Women's Competition
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@yeetyaah said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@bovidae Chelsea Alley is his partner so.....
Yeah, I know.
Chelsea is part of the Chiefs promotions so I doubt she is going anywhere. It will make conversations in the house interesting though.
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THE NIB BLUES ARE:
Props:Aldora Itunu (Auckland), Aleisha-Pearl Nelson (Northland), Chryss Viliko (Auckland), Krystal Murray (Northland).
Hooker:
Cristo Tofa (Auckland), Rebecca Todd (Canterbury), Te Kura Ngata-Aerengamate (Counties Manukau).
Locks:
Eloise Blackwell (Auckland), Maiakawanakaulani Roos (Auckland), Tafito Lafaele (Auckland), Vineta Teutau (Auckland).
Loose forwards:
Aroha Savage (Auckland), Ilisapeta Molia (Auckland), Liana Mikaele-Tu’u (Auckland), Tenaija Fletcher (North Harbour).
Halfback:
Luisa Togotogorua (Auckland), Melanie Puckett (Canterbury).
Inside backs:
Patricia Maliepo (Auckland), Ruahei Demant (Auckland), Sylvia Brunt (Auckland), Theresa Fitzpatrick (Auckland), Mele Hufanga (Auckland).
Outside backs:
Kalyn Takitimu-Cook (Auckland), Natahlia Moors (Auckland), Princess Elliot (Auckland), Sam Curtis (Auckland).
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2022 Chiefs Women’s Squad
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Tanya Kalounivale (Waikato, 1)
Angel Mulu (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Awhina Tangen-Wainohu (Waikato, 1)
Santo Taumata (Bay of Plenty)
Jayjay Taylor (Bay of Plenty)Hookers
Luka Connor (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Grace Houpapa-Barrett (Waikato, 1)Locks/Loose Forwards
Victoria Edmonds (Waikato)
Les Elder (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Chyna Hohepa (Waikato, 1)
Kendra Reynolds (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Kennedy Simon (Waikato, 1)
Pia Tapsell (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Harono Te Iringa (Counties Manukau, 1)
Kelsie Wills (Bay of Plenty, 1)Halfbacks
Ariana Bayler (Waikato, 1)
Maia Joseph (Otago)
Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu (Counties Manukau, 1)First Five-Eighths
Kelly Brazier (Bay of Plenty)
Hazel Tubic (Counties Manukau, 1)Midfield/Outside Backs
Chelsea Alley (Waikato, 1)
Georgia Daals (Wellington)
Stacey Fluhler (Waikato)
Carla Hohepa (Waikato)
Ruby Tui (Bay of Plenty)
Renee Wickliffe (Bay of Plenty, 1)
Portia Woodman (Northland) -
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Matatū 2022 Squad
Lucy Anderson (Canterbury)
Alana Bremner (Canterbury)
Chelsea Bremner (Canterbury)
Grace Brooker (Canterbury)
Kendra Cocksedge (Canterbury)
Natalie Delamere (Bay of Plenty)
Amy du Plessis (Canterbury)
Terauoriwa Gapper (Canterbury)
Julia Gorinski (Otago)
Di Hiini (Canterbury)
Renee Holmes (Waikato)
Lucy Jenkins (Canterbury)
Rosie Kelly (Canterbury)
Michaela Leonard (Canberra, ACT)
Pip Love (Canterbury)
Martha Mataele (Canterbury)
Liv McGoverne (Canterbury)
Arabella McKenzie (Walgett, NSW)
Kilisitina Moata'ane (Otago)
Greer Muir (Otago)
Moomooga (Ashley) Palu (Hawke’s Bay)
Marcelle Parkes (Canterbury)
Georgia Ponsonby (Canterbury)
Amy Rule (Canterbury)
Grace Steinmetz (Canterbury)
Steph Te Ohaere-Fox (Canterbury)
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@yeetyaah said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
Chiefs team is stacked tbh. I'd expect them to walk over the competition. Only local women I'm gutted we missed out on is Esther Tilo-Faiaoga and Renee Holmes.
I'd rather Holmes than Brazier, as the latter doesn't like tackling. Bunting has selected as many of his sevens players as possible.
And where's Kelsey Teneti?
Some of the players who played for the Chiefs womens team this year aren't in any squad now.
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@bovidae said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
No Jorja Miller either. Maybe they haven't selected either because of age.
Could be. She was the starting openside for Canterbury whenever available and wasn't physically outgunned.
As expected though this is a Canterbury plus ring-ins team rather than the SI team they are trying to sell themselves as. No Ta$man players and only three Otago. Two that should be there on merit and one probably due more to the lack of locks.
I totally get that Ta$man and Otago aren't the strongest but I think there is also a responsibility for this team to show they are serious about providing pathways and if that means having to put a bit of development in or take a chance on players that could thrive in a better team then that's what they should do.
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@bovidae said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
No Jorja Miller either. Maybe they haven't selected either because of age.
Age could explain a few Hawke's Bay players missing. For example, we have a winger who looks destined for the black jersey but she's 17.
By the way, I've seen photos of the Black Ferns 7s training and Miller was in them. Can't remember seeing Teneti; maybe she's there, too?
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I was just reading that the Blues have selected 5 teenagers, so maybe not.
@Crucial Canterbury wanting to be seen to be doing the right thing.
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@crucial Not sure I agree with your comments about Matatū and it being very Canterbury team. There's only one good/Premiership team in the SI. If what you say is true, how do you explain that there's only one current Hawke's Bay player in the Hurricanes squad (and one current in the Matatū squad)?
Where are the Taranaki players in the Chiefs squad? I also only see two Northland and one North Harbour player in the Blues team.
Otago have one player (originally from Hawke's Bay) in the Hurricanes team, one in the Chiefs, and 3 in Matatū. So five players, which isn't bad considering how they struggled this year in the FPC.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@bovidae said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
No Jorja Miller either. Maybe they haven't selected either because of age.
Age could explain a few Hawke's Bay players missing. For example, we have a winger who looks destined for the black jersey but she's 17.
By the way, I've seen photos of the Black Ferns 7s training and Miller was in them. Can't remember seeing Teneti; maybe she's there, too?
Recent photo? She was in the camp pre-games selection.
I thought maybe the Sevens angle but there are plenty of other sevens players in squads.
maybe a combination of the two. Age and number of games/workload?
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@crucial Not sure I agree with your comments about Matatū and it being very Canterbury team. There's only one good/Premiership team in the SI. If what you say is true, how do you explain that there's only one current Hawke's Bay player in the Hurricanes squad (and one current in the Matatū squad)?
Where are the Taranaki players in the Chiefs squad? I also only see two Northland and one North Harbour player in the Blues team.
Otago have one player (originally from Hawke's Bay) in the Hurricanes team, one in the Chiefs, and 3 in Matatū. So five players, which isn't bad considering how they struggled this year in the FPC.
Kind of proves my point. The concept and marketing around Matatū is that they represent the SI yet players good enough for the level are playing in NI franchises. Maia Joseph playing in the Chiefs is a joke.
No one I have spoken to in the SI believe that this franchise is a SI one. It is simply Canterbury +. Trained in, coached by, 'culture supplied by Cantab Iwi' etc. many of the young Otago players (and they are a very young side)see their futures in the NI which wasn't the idea.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@crucial Not sure I agree with your comments about Matatū and it being very Canterbury team. There's only one good/Premiership team in the SI. If what you say is true, how do you explain that there's only one current Hawke's Bay player in the Hurricanes squad (and one current in the Matatū squad)?
Where are the Taranaki players in the Chiefs squad? I also only see two Northland and one North Harbour player in the Blues team.
Otago have one player (originally from Hawke's Bay) in the Hurricanes team, one in the Chiefs, and 3 in Matatū. So five players, which isn't bad considering how they struggled this year in the FPC.
you cant really argue its not largely a Canterbury team can you?....just because its justified doesn't make that statement untrue
@Crucial it would have been cool to be more representative of the whole SI, but i think its a bit of a chicken and egg situation, they couldn't provide pathways before now but they also need to make the team successful enough as to secure the future, so now we have a team hopefully more players from Otago and Ta$man will see this as something to aim for
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@crucial It really doesn't prove your point. You're only focusing on the Otago players and Matatū, but look at the lack of players from Hawke's Bay in the Hurricanes squad (only one!), as well as the the fact that there are - for example - two Northland players in the Blues squad, but also one in the Hurricanes and one in the Chiefs.
The spread of players over other franchises is due to the draft system they used.
