BOP v Northland
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@bobily2 said in BOP v Northland:
What are people's thoughts on Cashmore? He's looked reasonably good for his age in the very little I've seen of him.
I thought he looked good for the Chiefs U20s and was much improved from when I watched him at 1st XV level for TBC. One for the future.
@Chris-B He is the nephew of Adrian.
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@bovidae said in BOP v Northland:
@bobily2 said in BOP v Northland:
What are people's thoughts on Cashmore? He's looked reasonably good for his age in the very little I've seen of him.
I thought he looked good for the Chiefs U20s and was much improved from when I watched him at 1st XV level for TBC. One for the future.
@Chris-B He is the nephew of Adrian.
I believe Blair's son
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nice to get a win, but jeez a couple of different bounces and this goes the other way
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@bayimports said in BOP v Northland:
but jeez a couple of different bounces
and you score 20 more...we are so ill prepared and unfit.
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@taniwharugby said in BOP v Northland:
@bayimports said in BOP v Northland:
but jeez a couple of different bounces
and you score 20 more...we are so ill prepared and unfit.
From our side, I just hope that doesn't secure Gibson more time lol
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@bayimports won't change anything for us, despite our coaches bumbling thier way through the past few seasons, think they are locked in until the year 2099...Southland deserve the semi spot, they look much better drilled without the quality in the squad like Northland had.
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I think we should just default this last game against Hawkes Bay , we have ton of injuries and I am not sure how we are going to extra players out of Northland .
I’m sure Hawkes Bay will use it as an opportunity to roll their Dev squad .
Hoping Josh Goodhue is ok did not look good .. -
@steven-harris said in BOP v Northland:
Hoping Josh Goodhue is ok did not look good ..
That is a massive concern for him, given his history, this could be the final knock for him!
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I find it really hard to judge Gibson as BOP coach so far - given how many changes there have been in the squad of 23 and the other mitigating factors. After all, beat Canterbury with a bonus point and Ta$man beat Wellington and Otago beat Waikato and it looks like we get a home semi-final*
- that may be a bad interpretation of the very strange looking ladder.
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@kiwipie if you look at the number of young personal in the current team its actually quite impressive..
I had quick look at the team list that played in the semi final last year and wow ..!,only about 3 players from last night in the starting XV,
The investment in young and local talent starting to show ,so for me given the injuries and disruptive season Gibson gets a pass mark -
What an embarrassment this team is sometimes. We turn with a gale force wind only three behind and absolutely cake it. BOP were below average last night but we still couldn’t ram it home.
Got to wonder why the NRU still accept mediocrity year after year. We should be up there with the other regional teams similar to us, but we still look like a hybrid Heartland/bottom of table championship team most times.
The Waikato game showed a glimpse of what we can achieve on a consistent basis with some good coaches.. and good on field leadership. It’s never been about talent for us, it’s about kicking that laid back Northland attitude to touch for good.
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@kiwipie On one hand... I think the case against Gibson was that earlier in the season - pre-injuries and disruptions - one of the strongest 'on paper' Steamers squads I can remember - and with good offseason recruiting - looked a significant step down. Down on both last year's team, and on their paper potential.
On the other hand... perhaps ironically, where he has brought it back is that the team has looked relatively better (or at the least more committed) with some of the younger/raw players coming through over the last few weeks.
I suppose it's hard to tell whether some of the early season form was the coaching, or perhaps 2-3 of the senior players carrying an injury into games, or maybe even attitude in one case. Tricky from the outside, especially with zero news about injuries from the Union as always...
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@j77 said in BOP v Northland:
Got to wonder why the NRU still accept mediocrity year after year. We should be up there with the other regional teams similar to us, but we still look like a hybrid Heartland/bottom of table championship team most times.
at least others have periods of success...this season shows how much of a fluke last year was, and even then, most fans knew we were damn lucky, was a good half v Waikato and a good 80 v Otago that got us into the final...we couldnt even get past an understrength, undermanned Auckland
Every single team has either won the shield or championship/premiership in the past 20, except one team.
We are consistently in the bottom few teams, and yet even Southland who must be our closest rival for worst performing team, have won the shield (09 & 11)
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@donsteppa Yeah, on paper we looked very strong, but their was a distinct lack of not effort (but perhaps controlled aggression). I was disappointed with our ability to compete given that roster.
Although communication about the team has improved remarkedly, updates on injuries has been consistently sh*t and it makes it hard to know how to judge the coaching.
However there were positives, some of the younger squad have really stepped up when we have been down on troops even if we were still losing, but its hard to say Gibson was anywhere near a pass.
Go figure though, if we do beat Canterbury by some miracle we will make the semis which I felt we had no right too and you have to give him a pass for that. lol
