Blues 2022
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@chchfanatic Big call to make about unproven players. Segner has the tools, he just needs to add a bit of man strength to his game, and learning from one of the best 7s in the country Dalton Papali'i will help develop his game.
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@african-monkey if he wasn’t German would he have all the hype. Guys like Dom Gardiner ,Fletcher Anderson , Corey Kellow , Joe Brial are just as good. You have to remember there is a salary cap in super rugby too.
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@chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.
In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.
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@african-monkey yeah I meant the story of a German kid trying to make abs. Not him being german. He’s good but the money he is being paid is he worth the salary cap space.
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@african-monkey said in Blues 2022:
@chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.
In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.
Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.
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@chris said in Blues 2022:
@african-monkey said in Blues 2022:
@chchfanatic Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I do see more upside to his game than your current 7s in the Crusaders starting lineup (not saying that he is better than them yet but I think he will end up being better than them). Can't comment on the younger brigade as I haven't seen enough of them.
In regards to him being German, well, he has had almost 2 full seasons in the Ta$man 23 and was part of their title winning side last season, so I wouldn't say that his nationality has a lot to do with his profile, although I do see the angle you are coming from with that one haha.
Think you will find Corey Kellow will be a much better 7 than Segner in the future.
Time will tell on Segner but I don't think he is a SR player by a long way as yet.edit. Kellow also is a year younger than Segner.
Agreed. For me, Kellow looked like the best loose forward in the Crusaders U20 team this year.
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@tim said in Blues 2022:
@chris said in Blues 2022:
Corey Kellow
Another Auckland boy. Loose forward factory.
We pinch some you pinch some the merry go round continues.
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@chris He may well be, I never disputed that at all.
I just think the Segner signing is getting played down a bit when personally, I think it could be a good investment for the Blues. As @chchfanatic alluded to, the Crusaders couldn't match the offer and have plenty of 7s coming through so it may not be a huge loss for them, but it could still prove to be a very good signing for the Blues going forward. We've produced a lot of good loosies ourselves and our recruitment of late has been very very good so yeah, I don't see why we can't get the best out of Segner.
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@chchfanatic are u saying Luke Romano signing for blues ,think kata might b to
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@george33 said in Blues 2022:
@bovidae hold turn into a top 7 I’m thinking he has time to learn from the best in Papalii and has good size
I think he will be a 7 too. Segner is a similar height to Papalii and will continue to add some weight.
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@george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair. Should retire , been a great servant.
Kata has signed with Moana Pacifica -
@chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:
@george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair. Should retire , been a great servant.
Good fit with the Blues missing Pat T. He won't win us games, but he shouldn't lose us too many either, and the experience will be gold in a young squad. One of his key KPI should be how good the other locks get working with him
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@chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:
@george33 Romano has signed with blues as crusaders didn’t offer him a deal. He’s done to be fair at SR level. Should retire , been a great servant.
Kata has signed with Moana PacificaMade that a bit clearer. He's been great at NPC level. I'm also not sure I entirely agree with you. I'd say Romano will still be good as a reserve in SR or starting against the likes of the Rebels, Force ...
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@stargazer haha fair. Done at super rugby with the crusaders. Whitelock, Barrett , strange , dunshea and Zach Gallagher. Not much room left.
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@chchfanatic said in Blues 2022:
@stargazer haha fair. Done at super rugby with the crusaders. Whitelock, Barrett , strange , dunshea and Zach Gallagher. Not much room left.
