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@nepia said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
There's also a large Asian population in the area, but it seems that NZ Asians and Oz Asians might be different. The only anti vaxxer at my office is Asian.
Based on your sample size of one?
Yes, of course.
Anecdotal evidence rules these days. "I know someone who knows someone who had their vax and died...." yada yada yada
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Have they actually charged the two women in MIQ with anything yet?
The Blenheim ladies appearing before the Court today either didn't request or weren't granted name suppression.
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mikethesnow Its some UK based Covid risk analysis. based on population data for UK.
seems reasonable. rank 81 has a 0.04% chance of death
So 81 is low?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder interestingly they have just named and shamed these 2 women on TV1 news yet the 2 that travelled to Northland are still anonymous in MIQ...
There will be a reason. My suspicion is other illegal activities which could mean that the police are being careful not to ruin that case.
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@mikethesnow nah 81 is high. 100 the worst.
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder interestingly they have just named and shamed these 2 women on TV1 news yet the 2 that travelled to Northland are still anonymous in MIQ...
There will be a reason. My suspicion is other illegal activities which could mean that the police are being careful not to ruin that case.
My suspicion is that they don't want to lose their gang vote from the Labour Mongrel Mob.
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@frank Depends what the objective of lockdown is.
If it is still eradication then it is definitely failing.
If it is to slow the spread to allow more people to get jabbed and also to try and delay the spread outside Akl. Then it has worked. Two months since first case detected and still less than 100 cases per day and close to 5 million extra doses delivered. Also given time for hospitals to increase the number of High Dependency beds and train up some nurses.
That doesn't give the govt a pass mark. If we had been further along the vaccination curve then all of this would have been less necessary. Although I think a majority of the population needed the kick start of an outbreak to get them motivated.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank Depends what the objective of lockdown is.
If it is still eradication then it is definitely failing.
If it is to slow the spread to allow more people to get jabbed and also to try and delay the spread outside Akl. Then it has worked. Two months since first case detected and still less than 100 cases per day and close to 5 million extra doses delivered. Also given time for hospitals to increase the number of High Dependency beds and train up some nurses.
That doesn't give the govt a pass mark. If we had been further along the vaccination curve then all of this would have been less necessary. Although I think a majority of the population needed the kick start of an outbreak to get them motivated.
It also doesn't have to be either/or.
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@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Also given time for hospitals to increase the number of High Dependency beds and train up some nurses.
This should have been done before. Long before.
Training has been going on and plans have been being tuned to switch beds over.
Trouble is that they also had 'normal' sick people getting in the way and wanting treatment.That comment is in now way excusing the shambles that many DHBs will have made of the task just saying that they were told to get ready.
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@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
65 today, all in Auckland.
This is not good.
Lockdown is failing.Yep. Lockdowns only work if people follow the rules and even then there is still a spread.
This one has failed because some people decided not to play the game (plus the ease that Delta spreads) -
I'm hearing rumours that if this push on the weekend produces positive results there may be some prizes announced on the basis of higher vax rates (lower risk).
Possibles include shorter MIQ, home iso for some (skipping the trial) and maybe some bubbles opening again.
Might be optimistic gossip but if the cases are now expected to Q at home, and they actually have the virus, how can they argue that fully vaxxed travellers with a recent tests and from a lower risk place are somehow a higher risk?
This could help in a lot of ways by increasing availabilityfor those that need it and those like migrant workers than could go straight to their accommodation at a place of work (ie fruit/veg workers) and be monitored there.Fingers crossed that the grapevine may have hit a couple of targets.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@tim also 2 x samples in Te Awamutu.
Cat well and truly out of the bag!
Was detected out in Helensville where i live as well.....good times.
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