Coronavirus - New Zealand
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Or this , i am shocked, shocked I tell you that this the same people behind the enormous success of Kiwibuild which has built to date (checks notes) …...1000 houses? Wtf ?
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has defended New Zealand’s slow roll out of the Covid-19 vaccine, insisting its not a level playing field between countries.
New Zealand is well below fellow OECD countries when it comes to our vaccination rates per capita.
That’s compared to the likes of Israel with 60.97 per cent, France at 13.58 per cent and Ireland with 12.90 per cent of people vaccinated on a per capita basis.
Ardern bit back at criticism, highlighting the importance of ensuring nations hit hardest by Covid-19 have access to the vaccine.
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From Hipkins per Stuff "Hipkins said they're not moving away from elimination, the approach is still Covid zero, but as vaccination rates increase, the way we express zero tolerance changes"
What does this actually mean? We're hoping it goes away but know it probably won't?
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@l_n_p said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
From Hipkins per Stuff "Hipkins said they're not moving away from elimination, the approach is still Covid zero, but as vaccination rates increase, the way we express zero tolerance changes"
What does this actually mean? We're hoping it goes away but know it probably won't?
It means that they are actually moving away from elimination but if they outright come and say it they will be called racist, so they prefer to be now seen as limiting, not throwing open the door and inviting the virus to visit. On this one, reacting as it incrementally gets worse is politically 'better' than being proactive.
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@rapido said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@l_n_p said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
From Hipkins per Stuff "Hipkins said they're not moving away from elimination, the approach is still Covid zero, but as vaccination rates increase, the way we express zero tolerance changes"
What does this actually mean? We're hoping it goes away but know it probably won't?
It means that they are actually moving away from elimination but if they outright come and say it they will be called racist, so they prefer to be now seen as limiting, not throwing open the door and inviting the virus to visit. On this one, reacting as it incrementally gets worse is politically 'better' than being proactive.
I read something in the Guardian related to this in NZ ... I know it's pure politics but I struggle with any kind of "racist" angle on Covid once everyone has had the opportunity to get the vaccine, especially if you eliminate other morbidity factors like obesity. We had a bit of the race angle earlier in the UK. If anything I'm a woke liberal leftie but the science says the virus doesn't seem to give a sh*t what colour you are though ...
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@l_n_p dont know if this is geoblocked for you...
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@taniwharugby I watched it via VPN. I totally don't disregard the underlying institutional healthcare issues as we have them in the UK too, but it looks like the type of fluffy stuff we get here. A decent interviewer would have asked her "Okay got it. There's a need to catch up, how long do you need and what tools do you need to get to X (say 75) percent, best guess?"
btw I assume it's not just Maori, but NZ's Pacific Island populations too?
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@l_n_p looking at the data, Maori lag behind PI, worst age group for Maori is 20-34 age group
I think part of it is Maori will tend to live in rural/remote communities, whereas the Island communities tend to be more in cities, and for the Maori to get to a Vax centre in some cases could be an hour drive, and if some these people are on a benefit (sickness, unemployment) they arent just gonna jump in thier car and drive to the nearest vax centre...now I believe there is a bus driving around Northland, they need to up this (here, East Cape, parts of BOP and HB etc) and get it out to these isolated communities, at the Marae, local Halls and get to these people this way.
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There was a lot of ongoing analysis of low vaccination and vaccination hesitant groups here i.e. by ethnicity, age, geography etc leading to targetted information and pop-up clinics - mobile clinics, and local community centers.
My teenage daughter used one to get her first shot a bit early as they had a refreshingly flexible approach vs the main UK age/risk prioritisation ... basically "the more the merrier" in the pop-ups.
So race here was a factor influencing healthcare policy and targetting, but not influencing overall government policy and milestones on releasing controls ... I guess that's the difference I'm hearing.
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@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
When are they making the Hamilton call to go to L2? We have a fishing trip organised and half a dozen of them are from Hams
Sounds more likely you’ll be in extra super duty L4 by the weekend. If they keep that in place until the Tron is disease free it’ll be decades before you’re doing any fishing.
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Labours shills have been busy today trying to pretend that there was no problem waiting six weeks to talk to Pfizer because they didn’t have their vaccine ready . That of course ignores the fact that pretty much every other nation that went with Pfizer didn’t see any problem doing a deal at that stage and we went to the front…..,sorry back of the queue.
This is another story that’s aged well
Once again , fuck these people.
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An odd weak positive up here of an essential worker now back in Auckland.
If you were prone to buying conspiracy theories, some of the language used in media articles would certainly give support to thinking this is being used as a vehicle to drive Vax numbers.
I don't buy that, but what it does show is Delta is here, Delta ain't going away, we need to live with Delta, not yo-yo up and down alert levels.
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@l_n_p said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Some chance we'll see "Plan B" winter controls in the UK if there's a surge - masking and working from home. Although it's always mentioned as a bit of a "stick", I also can't see vaccine passports being used here internally, only for international travel.
The big concern in the UK isn't so much Covid but Winter Flu. Real concern that immunity hasn't built up in the warmer months because of lockdown and deaths could be twice the normal 20k.
It's good news, Covid-wise, that NZ is heading into summer
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@victor-meldrew the world is fuckeded
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
An odd weak positive up here of an essential worker now back in Auckland.
If you were prone to buying conspiracy theories, some of the language used in media articles would certainly give support to thinking this is being used as a vehicle to drive Vax numbers.
I don't buy that, but what it does show is Delta is here, Delta ain't going away, we need to live with Delta, not yo-yo up and down alert levels.
The first 12 months approx of living with it will be yo-yoing up and down alert levels. Just not level 4s.
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@rapido I expect the more the yo yo the less the compliance.
I could deal with a hard L2 type deal but L3 is getting too restrictive.
Granted parts of the world have done longer at what our L3 is than we have, but whatever we end up with will have a long tail and then more non compliance.
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The big concern in the UK isn't so much Covid but Winter Flu. Real concern that immunity hasn't built up in the warmer months because of lockdown and deaths could be twice the normal 20k.
Yep totally agree.
Btw there were good recent UK results on a combined Covid second shot and Flu vaccine. "Two COVID-19 (AZ, Pfizer) and three influenza vaccines were tested, meaning six combinations in all."
I think the study was initiated before Covid booster shots were agreed here. Given this and logistics I assume it's separate shots this winter.