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<p>That's an interesting set up, Taniwha rugby. Personally, I think the problem with Sky is that their basic package is pretty shit. I would love Soho but you have to pay extra. I quite like the news channels you get on Sky. I don't have kids so I don't need the cartoons. Discovery/history channel is basically all rubbish. Then you have stuff like food channels and all that.</p>
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<p>I actually think the $30 or so you pay per month for sport is excellent value. I probably watch about 2 Super Rugby games a week, a bit of soccer, the occasional league game, cricket internationals and the cycling highlights when its on. From my perspective, the sports package is fantastic value for money. The problem is to get the sports package you have to buy all this other crap which you don't want.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="577371" data-time="1462510324"><p>That's an interesting set up, Taniwha rugby. Personally, I think the problem with Sky is that their basic package is pretty shit. I would love Soho but you have to pay extra. I quite like the news channels you get on Sky. I don't have kids so I don't need the cartoons. Discovery/history channel is basically all rubbish. Then you have stuff like food channels and all that.<br><br>
I actually think the $30 or so you pay per month for sport is excellent value. I probably watch about 2 Super Rugby games a week, a bit of soccer, the occasional league game, cricket internationals and the cycling highlights when its on. From my perspective, the sports package is fantastic value for money. The problem is to get the sports package you have to buy all this other crap which you don't want.</p></blockquote>
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Better internet really changes things.<br><br>
Finally, J-sports released their sports on-demand - and the cool thing is that you can just buy a 'pack' for one sport. So, for about $20 bucks a month, I have all rugby that's being shown on their channels (4sports channels) - plus $10 for Netflix, and life is good :)<br><br>
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<p>Was going to ditch Sky, not because we cant afford it. Just because they are a bunch of fluffybunnies and our money could be better spent elsewhere.</p>
<p>Tapping into Netflix via VPN but with the crackdown (fuckwits) its not so reliable these days.</p>
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<p>Better internet really changes things.<br><br>
Finally, J-sports released their sports on-demand - and the cool thing is that you can just buy a 'pack' for one sport. So, for about $20 bucks a month, I have all rugby that's being shown on their channels (4sports channels) - plus $10 for Netflix, and life is good :)<br><br>
Just thought I'd share.</p>
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<p>Yeah, Netflix and Lightbox are a lot better value than Sky Basic although you probably need unlimited broadband.</p> -
<p>I don't have a tv, and am on a limited data plan (5G) so don't stream. But my parents have the full Sky circus, and a few weeks ago when I was there to hog the free wifi to download Windows 10 (GGRRRRR) I flicked through all the channels. Dad loves the sport channels for rugby, cricket and golf, Mum loves the Living channel (but probably watches more TVNZ for Coro, Masterchef, Britain's got talent etc). Maybe the occasional movie, but fuck me days they play some shit.</p>
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<p>AS long as they keep adding channels nobody wants and upping the price, they are probably going to lose subscribers.</p> -
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<p><strong>That's an interesting set up, Taniwha rugby.</strong> Personally, I think the problem with Sky is that their basic package is pretty shit. I would love Soho but you have to pay extra. I quite like the news channels you get on Sky. I don't have kids so I don't need the cartoons. Discovery/history channel is basically all rubbish. Then you have stuff like food channels and all that.</p>
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<p>I actually think the $30 or so you pay per month for sport is excellent value. I probably watch about 2 Super Rugby games a week, a bit of soccer, the occasional league game, cricket internationals and the cycling highlights when its on. From my perspective, the sports package is fantastic value for money. The problem is to get the sports package you have to buy all this other crap which you don't want.</p>
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<p>The basic package we watch a fair amount, Nat Geo, Discovery, kids channels, wife watches Animal Planet (find what you want on them in amongst the endless re-runs)....but agree on the fact you have to have all the stuff you dont want to get sports.</p> -
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<p>The basic package we watch a fair amount, Nat Geo, Discovery, kids channels, wife watches Animal Planet (find what you want on them in amongst the endless re-runs)....but agree on the fact you have to have all the stuff you dont want to get sports.</p>
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<p>I suppose if you have kids it makes it a decent deal.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="577398" data-time="1462518383"><p>I don't have a tv, and am on a limited data plan (5G) so don't stream. But my parents have the full Sky circus, and a few weeks ago when I was there to hog the free wifi to download Windows 10 (GGRRRRR) I flicked through all the channels. Dad loves the sport channels for rugby, cricket and golf, Mum loves the Living channel (but probably watches more TVNZ for Coro, Masterchef, Britain's got talent etc). Maybe the occasional movie, but fuck me days they play some shit.<br><br>
AS long as they keep adding channels nobody wants and upping the price, they are probably going to lose subscribers.</p></blockquote>
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We have Vodafone TV which is basically MySky but cheaper (the box is free as is the HD ticket, so we only pay the price of Sky itself). We both like enough for it to be worth keeping, albeit as a marginal call.<br><br>
We also have a VPN and Netflix, and while it's a bit spotty, the other countries still work - the crackdown is primarily targeting the US Netflix. Also, the VPN means we can watch BBC I-player and all the other free TV channels around the world - think TVNZ On Demand, but for all the American channels as well. -
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<p>We have Vodafone TV which is basically MySky but cheaper (<strong>the box is free as is the HD ticket</strong>, so we only pay the price of Sky itself). We both like enough for it to be worth keeping, albeit as a marginal call.<br><br>
We also have a VPN and Netflix, and while it's a bit spotty, the other countries still work - the crackdown is primarily targeting the US Netflix. Also, the VPN means we can watch BBC I-player and all the other free TV channels around the world - think TVNZ On Demand, but for all the American channels as well.</p>
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<p>hmmm, maybe I need to hit Vodafone up, MySky is free, but the HD ticket isnt...have my phone and broadband attached to it as well.</p> -
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hmmm, maybe I need to hit Vodafone up, MySky is free, but the HD ticket isnt...have my phone and broadband attached to it as well.</p></blockquote>
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Sky really annoys me with their huge volume of really terrible adverts. You pay for the TV, then they jam adverts down your throat as another revenue stream. And every second one is for Sky, which you already clearly fucking have. <br><br>
I like the BBC a lot more. The draconian nature of the licence fee used to piss me off in principle, but it really is such good value. -
Bump. So Sky's response is to raise their prices.<br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/80092907/sky-tv-to-raise-prices-as-annual-content-costs-rise-by-30-million'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/80092907/sky-tv-to-raise-prices-as-annual-content-costs-rise-by-30-million</a> -
<p>surely the economics aint that hard to grasp?</p>
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<p>A golf club I used to belong to keep putting thier prices up to compensate the members they are losing....</p> -
<p>Prior to us leaving NZ we had discussed that when our one year contract with Sky was up we would be ditching it. It was a combination of:</p>
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<p>- Shit movies on the movie channel</p>
<p>- Having to pay extra for Soho when you could get the same content on netflix</p>
<p>- TVNZ pop up channels generally having more games of NFL and NBA per week than ESPN</p>
<p>- Being unable to access those pop up channels through the sky box</p>
<p>- ESPN playing female NCAA ten pin bowling instead of NBA playoff games</p>
<p>- Continual price rises while advertising also increased and content was lost </p>
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<p>The tipping point for me was when they refused to get the NZ v South Africa cricket games because they reckoned they were being held to ransom. If they want to hold a monopoly and call themselves the home of cricket then they should have made sure that they could get all that cricket. To be fair, I probably wouldn't have even got up to watch the games live, but it would have been nice to be able to catch a replay the following morning. </p>
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<p>When we rang up to cancel our movies package 6 months ago, the helpful call centre guy told us that we would be better off cancelling our subscription and rejoining and we'd get sky sport free for a year (was a promotion they were running at the time). We did that and our sky plus internet bill went from about $150 to $110 per month, just for dropping movies. </p>
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That article brings up an interesting point from the CEO. He is saying that his customers are leaving and telling him why yet he thinks they are wrong. <br>
So either Sky have deliberately chosen to ignore their market to eke out as much as they can for as long as possible before dying or they are really thick. <br>
They state that they have had to pay an eye watering amount for rugby, which they paid because it is the backbone of any future they have. Lose rugby and they will struggle to be relevant at all. <br>
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<p>Which isn't great news for Rugby.</p>
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<p>If Sky goes belly up to the now numerous internet and tv versions out there then there will be less money to bid for Rugby rights, no?</p>
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<p>I have kind of re-read what I wrote and I have disagreed with myself before posting as there could be more competition for rights but I imagine each provider has a smaller subscription base and therefore less money....</p>
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<p>Oh I don't know enough, it's obvious</p> -
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<p>When we rang up to cancel our movies package 6 months ago, the helpful call centre guy told us that we would be better off cancelling our subscription and rejoining and we'd get sky sport free for a year (was a promotion they were running at the time). We did that and our sky plus internet bill went from about $150 to $110 per month, just for dropping movies. </p>
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<p>that's the kicker isn't it, they offer deals to new members, free this free that for 6/12 months or whatever, but never any deals for existing customers. I used to get a free movie voucher each year on my birthday, but they haven't sent me the voucher for years.+</p>
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<p>Had the same issue with my power company, had a minor issue a few years back, told them I'd been a loyal customer and this issue was the first time I had considered moving, wasn't a threat just saying I had thought about it, they immediately offered me a $200 credit if I agree to stay on for another year!!</p>
