We are #1 !!

Richie8-7

Well, they won. Then behaved like a bunch of knobs. And are a joke of a cricket team.

No Quarter

Not in T20s they aren't. In tests absolutely, and should probably lose their status as a test nation. But they are fricken hard to beat in T20s. They won the thing without their premier batsmen firing a shot in the finals.

Richie8-7

Yep, and it proved that winning a T20 tournament requires more arse than class.

No Quarter

Lol, I think it shows that winning a T20 tournament requires T20 specialists. Which is what basically the entire WI team is.

Richie8-7

Yep, so not any good cricketers. Except Gayle who has played 100+ tests.

No Quarter

Define "cricketer"

Richie8-7

The guy in your profile pic is a good start :)

No Quarter

The guy that invented cricket max?

Richie8-7

Yes. And was a brilliant cricketer who saw an opportunity to design a game that any gumby could play

gollum

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Top 10 T20 batsman... not seeing a lot of gumby's
 
1 889 V. Kohli
 2 803 A.J. Finch
 3 754 M.J. Guptill
 4 750 J.E. Root
 5 741 F. du Plessis
 6 719 K.S. Williamson
 7 713 A.D. Hales
 8 696 C.H. Gayle
 9 677 H. Masakadza
 10 674 Mohammad Shahzad
 
Tho' I do confess to having no idea who Masakadza is... but Kane, Kohli & Root will all be legends

No Quarter

I wonder why Steve Smith, Hashim Amla, Younus Khan and Adam Voges aren't in the top 10? I mean they are all top 10 test batsmen, and well any gumby can play T20, so I can't understand why they wouldn't do well in that format?

gollum

<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1008221.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1008221.html</a>
 
Tom Latham off to a cracking County Cricket start too. If he can bed in there & get a thing going with Bell-Drumond he can get a county gig for years to come.

MN5

Some guys are better suited to different formats and will continue to favour one or the other or the other. Nothing new there.
 
To elaborate on what NQ is saying the guys he mentioned are anchor type players first and foremost which makes Root and Williamsons ability in the shortest forms all the more impressive.

No Quarter

Yup, anyone that is able to dominate all formats is hugely impressive. The point being that qualities as a test player do not automatically translate to T20, which invalidates the "any gumby can play it" comment. As much as it grates Richie8-7, the WI are a very impressive T20 team.

Virgil

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The current world champions are made up of a team of T20 specialists. They were deserved winners without a doubt.
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The Fijians of the Cricketing world.
Top Dog in the shortest form of the game, absolute shit balls in the longer format.

MN5

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The Fijians of the Cricketing world.
Top Dog in the shortest form of the game, absolute shit balls in the longer format.
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Good analogy although the Fijians can't look back on how amazing they used to be at 15s.
 
A couple of years back I would have thought D Warner would be well up the list of T20 batsmen but I guess it shows that he has reigned in his natural instincts somewhat and become such a dominant test player instead.

No Quarter

Although Warner made a name for himself in T20's first, I don't think he's really the type of player that can just slog every ball effectively. He scores his runs through good cricket shots which is why he is doing so well at test level. He's an aggressive little bugger, so always looks to score, but technically he's very sound.
 
Kohli, Root and Williamson are on another level at the moment.

MN5

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Although Warner made a name for himself in T20's first, I don't think he's really the type of player that can just slog every ball effectively. He scores his runs through good cricket shots which is why he is doing so well at test level. He's an aggressive little bugger, so always looks to score, but technically he's very sound.
 
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Well for sure especially when you consider none of those three are what you'd all big hitters.

gollum

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Good analogy although the Fijians can't look back on how amazing they used to be at 15s.
 
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/1008695.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/1008695.html</a>
 
Cricinfo did a piece on Warner on Friday highlighting that in the IPL he is so much better than the others its just not funny... - (lots of interesting tables & shit ion the actual article, but here's the gist)
 
After a lacklustre World T20 when he batted at Nos. 3 and 4 for Australia and scored all of 38 runs in four innings, David Warner is back at where he's done the best in T20s - opening. Warner has scored 386 runs in seven innings in this IPL at average of 77.20 and a strike rate of 168.55. Among openers who have played more than one innings in this season, KL Rahul's strike rate of 158.33 comes the closest. Warner's strike rate is also the best for any batsman with at least 150 runs in this IPL. 
 
Admittedly, it has helped to open in this IPL - 2016 has already seen 45 fifty-plus scores by openers in 32 matches, which is just three such scores fewer than what they managed in the whole series last year. Openers' average of 36.83 in 2016 is also the highest in any IPL season. But even among openers, Warner has stood out in the manner he has dominated the bowlers. He has attacked them from the word go and hasn't allowed them to bowl tight lines. In the first 15 balls of his innings in this IPL, Warner has struck at a rate of 174.72, which is higher than any of the other big-hitting batsmen in this series. His balls-per-boundary ratio of 3.6 is also the best among these batsmen. 
 
Warner has also had to shoulder the responsibilities of a team that is clearly one of the weaker batting units in this IPL. While most other teams have had a strong middle order to fall back upon, Sunrisers Hyderabad haven't had that luxury, making Warner's contribution with the bat even more valuable. While Warner has averaged 77.20 in this IPL, the other Sunrisers batsmen have collectively averaged 21.58. Till Sunrisers' seventh game, Warner scored 386 runs out of the 958 that the team's top-seven batsmen have made, making his contribution of 40.29% to the top-order runs the highest for any batsman.
 
Warner's IPL success hasn't been limited to this season alone. He has been one of the most successful batsmen in IPL's history. In addition to being one of the top run-getters in this competition, he has notched up 30 fifty-plus scores, which equal the most any batsman has hit. Rohit and Gambhir have also hit 30 fifty-plus scores but they have taken 133 and 125 innings, respectively, to Warner's 90 innings (though to be fair it needs to be said that almost three-fourths of Rohit's innings in the IPL have been at No. 4 or lower). Warner's conversion rate of a fifty every three innings is the second best for any batsman with at least five fifty-plus scores in the IPL.

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