Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@rapido when I went in to the Economist they actually have NZ twice on that graph once at 65.3 and once at 61...
Here's latest from WID
Is that % of total population or over 12's? Here in Aus we are more focussed on 16+ which to me is more relevant. Australia wide that number is 64% 1st, 39.4% 2nd.
More importantly in NSW we are 76% / 43% and about a month away from hitting 70% double dosed
Once again the elephant in the room: vaccination numbers do not take into account natural immunity from recovered infection. In NZ, that number is essentially zero. So in Europe 25% not vaccinated but many have already had Covid. I wish a journalist would ask Bloomfield and the like about that aspect.
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@billy-tell said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@rapido when I went in to the Economist they actually have NZ twice on that graph once at 65.3 and once at 61...
Here's latest from WID
Is that % of total population or over 12's? Here in Aus we are more focussed on 16+ which to me is more relevant. Australia wide that number is 64% 1st, 39.4% 2nd.
More importantly in NSW we are 76% / 43% and about a month away from hitting 70% double dosed
Once again the elephant in the room: vaccination numbers do not take into account natural immunity from recovered infection. In NZ, that number is essentially zero. So in Europe 25% not vaccinated but many have already had Covid. I wish a journalist would ask Bloomfield and the like about that aspect.
Natural immunity appears to be a very important piece of the puzzle that doesn't seem to have been factored into NZs approach. Other countries are in a much better position to open up because of it.
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@no-quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@billy-tell said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@rapido when I went in to the Economist they actually have NZ twice on that graph once at 65.3 and once at 61...
Here's latest from WID
Is that % of total population or over 12's? Here in Aus we are more focussed on 16+ which to me is more relevant. Australia wide that number is 64% 1st, 39.4% 2nd.
More importantly in NSW we are 76% / 43% and about a month away from hitting 70% double dosed
Once again the elephant in the room: vaccination numbers do not take into account natural immunity from recovered infection. In NZ, that number is essentially zero. So in Europe 25% not vaccinated but many have already had Covid. I wish a journalist would ask Bloomfield and the like about that aspect.
Natural immunity appears to be a very important piece of the puzzle that doesn't seem to have been factored into NZs approach. Other countries are in a much better position to open up because of it.
I expect we can avoid a lot of the mortality that other countries have had if we get our vaxx rollout right. But we need to expect to all get covid19 in order to move forward, I don't think it is being communicated by Bloomfield, Ardern or the media
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@no-quarter and I think Sweden is a good example, especially as a country that havent had a lock down at all (I believe) and were heavily criticsed early on for thier approach, obviously they have had alot of deaths, currently sitting at 57.5% fully vaccinated...circa 11% of the population have had Covid (assuming no double infected)
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
13 cases today, all in Auckland, hospitalisation, ICU and ventilator numbers have dropped.
250,000 Pfizer doses en route from Spain, should arrive in Auckland tomorrow morning, bigger deal in the works, hoping to announce shortly.
Vamos!
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
13 cases today, all in Auckland, hospitalisation, ICU and ventilator numbers have dropped.
250,000 Pfizer doses en route from Spain, should arrive in Auckland tomorrow morning, bigger deal in the works, hoping to announce shortly.
Vamos!
Apparently nobody expected the Spanish Requisition...
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
13 cases today, all in Auckland, hospitalisation, ICU and ventilator numbers have dropped.
250,000 Pfizer doses en route from Spain, should arrive in Auckland tomorrow morning, bigger deal in the works, hoping to announce shortly.
Vamos!
Apparently nobody expected the Spanish Requisition...
BEAUTIFUL!!!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Cindy walking back from Hipkins comments about MIQ availability and the abandonment of the traffic light border scenario.
MIQ will stay as is and the comments about risk profiling applies to individual countries - the strategy has not changed.
Must have changed tack after reading responses on the Fern
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I think the pathway to NZers being able to return more freely is still planning for fully vaccinated people being able to self-isolate rather than go into MIQ. The trial on this later this year is still planned to go ahead despite the latest Delta incursion, so that tells me the government is serious about that as the first stage of the plan.
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I think the government will be closely watching what happens in the Northern Hemisphere as they move into autumn.
For all the triumphalism of some elements up north (media / politicians and no worse than our own) the graphs are trending remarkably similarly to last year.
7 day death rate in the UK for example is 15 times higher than it was for the same week last year. I do get that the UK is a lot more open but I wonder how much of their great summer is the vax rate and how much is seasonality.
NZ has to accept living with Covid and soon. In my circle I would say there are no more than 1 or 2 who want to stay locked down forever. There are more who are ready to open up now but the vast majority guardedly support the Govt's strategy but will start clamouring for borders to open once we get tp 70% double jabbed
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so Cindy and Chris need to have a chat?
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I am firmly on the Butcher's side here. It's absolutely ridiculous that they cannot offer a click and collect service, while thousands of people cram into supermarkets to get their meat.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126330367/police-make-auckland-butcher-shut-shop
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@no-quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I am firmly on the Butcher's side here. It's absolutely ridiculous that they cannot offer a click and collect service, while thousands of people cram into supermarkets to get their meat.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126330367/police-make-auckland-butcher-shut-shop
Yeah mate, I ranted about this no-end during the 2020 lockdown. It's fucking disgraceful that all that wealth got transferred from small business to large supermarkets. If you are making a unilateral decision that small business aren't sensible enough / smart enough / whatever, to be able to operate in a safe manner on click and collect, then you damn sure better compensate them financially for that view,
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
13 cases today, all in Auckland, hospitalisation, ICU and ventilator numbers have dropped.
250,000 Pfizer doses en route from Spain, should arrive in Auckland tomorrow morning, bigger deal in the works, hoping to announce shortly.
Praise Cindy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
13 cases today, all in Auckland, hospitalisation, ICU and ventilator numbers have dropped.
250,000 Pfizer doses en route from Spain, should arrive in Auckland tomorrow morning, bigger deal in the works, hoping to announce shortly.
Praise Saint Cindy!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIFY