Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
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<p>Can you guys keep on the topic I took numerous diversions to get to ? ie Evil Dead TV series with Deep Purple soundtracks ?</p>
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<p>I only need to see photos of M4L on FB to understand why he'd make any woman consider going Anika Moa.</p>
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<p>Just watched that Anika Moa video and yeah she was quite tidy back then, especially in comparison to what she is now. Is that the guy from Banshee driving the car at the start?</p> -
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<p>Can you guys keep on the topic I took numerous diversions to get to ? ie <strong>Evil Dead TV series</strong> with Deep Purple soundtracks ?</p>
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<p>I only need to see photos of M4L on FB to understand why he'd make any woman consider going Anika Moa.</p>
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<p>I watched ep1 & 2 and gave up....</p>
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<p>@jegga - yep that was her.</p> -
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<p> These people were dropped as they were not performing. That happens all the time in sports.</p>
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<p>Oh I thought they resigned, you're saying they were sacked? My mistake I've got the wrong end of the stick in those articles</p>
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<p>To clarify by high profile people I'm talking about is staff not players.</p>
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<p>But apologies I thought people at media works were resigning. If they were sacked well, that's just business really isn't it</p> -
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Oh I thought they resigned, you're saying they were sacked? My mistake I've got the wrong end of the stick in those articles<br><br>
To clarify by high profile people I'm talking about is staff not players.<br><br>
But apologies I thought people at media works were resigning. If they were sacked well, that's just business really isn't it</p></blockquote>
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<p>Could this be a decent article from an indecent source??</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/79627392/mark-weldon--a-casualty-of-the-brutal-rationalisation-in-the-media-sector'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/79627392/mark-weldon--a-casualty-of-the-brutal-rationalisation-in-the-media-sector</a></p> -
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<p>Could this be a decent article from an indecent source??</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/79627392/mark-weldon--a-casualty-of-the-brutal-rationalisation-in-the-media-sector'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/79627392/mark-weldon--a-casualty-of-the-brutal-rationalisation-in-the-media-sector</a></p>
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<p>I tend to take most things the author says with a grain of salt, he's turning into a Gareth Morgan.</p> -
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<p>I watched ep1 & 2 and gave up....</p>
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<p>@jegga - yep that was her.</p>
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<p>Really ? better half was not impressed with the trailer so might be a tough battle persuading her it is worth it ?</p> -
<p>Really!</p>
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"The Beyoncé of the news"<br><br>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79475742/hilary-barrys-colleagues-react-to-shock-departure'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79475742/hilary-barrys-colleagues-react-to-shock-departure</a> -
<p>The tone of the comments is changing, I think even fans are getting fed up with the sheer amount of coverage a woman changing jobs is resulting in.</p>
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<p>I mean the Beyonce of the news, fucking hell. As for that article, Paula Penfold, isn't she Mike McRoberts wife? So not exactly a neutral source.</p> -
<p>some headlines on NZH...</p>
<p> </p>Chris Rattue: Kiwis unlikely to pull a Leicester<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> <span style="font-family:'courier new', courier, monospace;">(really, not even close to a valid comparison)</span></span><p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633792'>Garner apologises after woman bares all</a></p>
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<p class="">5 min ago</p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633969'>Cricketer fails to get extra costs in court fight</a><p class="">6 min ago</p>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11463960'>Six times live TV went horribly wrong</a> only 6?<p class="">16 min ago</p>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633988'>Tennis-ball size diamond may sell for $70m</a><p class="">16 min ago</p>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633962'>Are these the worst mums in the world?</a> is about a movie<p class="">18 min ago</p>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11633996'>Double Dribble podcast Thu May 5</a> didn't check to see what this was about<p class="">25 min ago</p>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11633987'>Student creates London tube-style map of NZ</a><p class="">32 min ago</p>
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11633983'>Chimp victim's body rejects face-transplant</a> damn!<p class=""> </p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/kpmg-early-edition/opinion/andrew-dickens-online-attacks-on-mark-weldon-were-classless-rude-and-lacked-any-grace-or-style/'>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/kpmg-early-edition/opinion/andrew-dickens-online-attacks-on-mark-weldon-were-classless-rude-and-lacked-any-grace-or-style/</a></p>
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<p>Good analysis IMO</p>
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<p>Well good to see some "fern" like comments coming through on Stuff at least.</p>
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<p>Someone mentioned her being easy on the eye.....is it just me or could you land a fleet of harriers on her forehead if she lay on her back.?</p>
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<p>One of the favourites to replace her is Samantha Hayes, so I'm not sure that's a good reason to keep Hilary. HB is certainly more than passable though.</p> -
<p>I guess it depends what you are comparing her with to say she is easy on the eye?</p>
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<p>I liked this comment:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/kpmg-early-edition/opinion/andrew-dickens-online-attacks-on-mark-weldon-were-classless-rude-and-lacked-any-grace-or-style/'>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/kpmg-early-edition/opinion/andrew-dickens-online-attacks-on-mark-weldon-were-classless-rude-and-lacked-any-grace-or-style/</a></p>
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<p>Good analysis IMO</p>
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<p>NZ media are up so far up their own ass.</p>
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<p>Yeah - that probably accords with what I'm thinking.</p>
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<p>Thing about Weldon is that he took on a thankless task. If you're leading major restructurings it is bloody hard to take a lot of the people with you - especially if your restructuring involves sacking their friends. Eventually, when things settle into a new normal people might realize you're not such a bad bastard, but the toll on people and productivity is usually high - at least in my experience.</p>
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<p>I reckon if you're employed to be a hatchetman then you're best to do the job, take the cash and get the hell out - let someone new reap the benefits of your "bad cop" performance. </p> -
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Chris Rattue: Kiwis unlikely to pull a Leicester<span style="font-family:arial;"> [font='courier new'](really, not even close to a valid comparison)</span>[/font]<br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633792">Garner apologises after woman bares all</a><br><br>
5 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633969">Cricketer fails to get extra costs in court fight</a><br>
6 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11463960">Six times live TV went horribly wrong</a> only 6?<br>
16 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633988">Tennis-ball size diamond may sell for $70m</a><br>
16 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633962">Are these the worst mums in the world?</a> is about a movie<br>
18 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11633996">Double Dribble podcast Thu May 5</a> didn't check to see what this was about<br>
25 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11633987">Student creates London tube-style map of NZ</a><br>
32 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11633983">Chimp victim's body rejects face-transplant</a> damn!</p></blockquote>
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Good analysis IMO<br><br>
NZ media are up so far up their own ass.</p></blockquote>
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Thing about Weldon is that he took on a thankless task. If you're leading major restructurings it is bloody hard to take a lot of the people with you - especially if your restructuring involves sacking their friends. Eventually, when things settle into a new normal people might realize you're not such a bad bastard, but the toll on people and productivity is usually high - at least in my experience.<br><br>
I reckon if you're employed to be a hatchetman then you're best to do the job, take the cash and get the hell out - let someone new reap the benefits of your "bad cop" performance.</p></blockquote>
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I don't disagree with that but it does make me wonder how he treated people in doing his job when the remaining staff hold a party to celebrate his departure. However you look at it that isn't a sign of a company that has found any kind of good culture. <br>
I have been in companies where a hatchet man has come in and in one case was a 'victim' but no matter how much others muttered or complained I can't imagine them holding a party at work when the guy departed. <br>
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<p>I don't disagree with that but it does make me wonder how he treated people in doing his job when the remaining staff hold a party to celebrate his departure. However you look at it that isn't a sign of a company that has found any kind of good culture.<br>
I have been in companies where a hatchet man has come in and in one case was a 'victim' but no matter how much others muttered or complained I can't imagine them holding a party at work when the guy departed.<br>
At my current work we have had a couple of necessary restructures and they were handled openly and with dignity. The bosses were very upfront and caused very little bad blood. Some departees have even come back.</p>
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<p>I don't think anyone is arguing the culture was good! But who is to blame for that? The lazy answer is the boss, but that is simplistic BS. If you get bought in to make change and people with high profiles and even larger egos refuse point blank to change or even negotiate? You need to get rid of them. And if the act of getting rid of the toxic elements makes others annoyed.. is just part of the cost.</p>
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<p>I think you may be underestimating the elf importance and ego of those employees. Be hard not t be when you are puffed up by the rest of the media.</p>
