2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo)
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@taniwharugby that was hilarious when it blew up yesterday on Twitter.
Yeah mate - just got to teach them passing skills they've never possessed, how to tackle correctly, and the entire set of laws of the game.
Only took Carlin Isles 5 years to get the gist of it.
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@mariner4life said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby 12 months i reckon. 12 months of training and playing and they would be fuuuuuucking hard to stop. Those guys are genetic freaks.
Receivers, running backs, linebackers and safeties.
At least 12 months. They're amazing athletes but have no idea how to pass - a lot of the Yank converts still don't, and it shows - and the different awareness of space.
They're used to operating in narrow channels on very strict game plans, and the WR in particular don't do defence.
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Carlin Isles is not DK Metcalf or Tyreek Hill or Derrick Henry.
If it's all they do for 12 months, gee i would love to see it.
Of course i wouldn't, because 7s pays what some of those guys make in a week.
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@nta not to mention fitness.
I reckon an all star NFL team would be fun to watch, but they'd get smoked.
Learning to tackle would be a massive hurdle, just to keep players on the park!
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@taniwharugby tackle? The fuck do you think linebackers and safeties do all season? Read plays and make tackles.
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Was a hard watch, simply put Fiji made less (a lot less) errors and were well deserving of their win. NZ got rattled early and never got their composure back, some poor kick restart gathers, some poor tackles, some poor hands on attack. Showed great ticker but Fiji clearly the better team.
Am glad for Fiji though, it's always nice to see a minnow come through and claim some Olympic glory (just wish it wasn't at our expense!)
Also really glad that Argentina got bronze, well deserved after that incredible victory over SA, for me that games probably been the highlight of the Olympics - such incredible resolve and character, it's the reason you love sport!
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@mariner4life more the way they tackle, the defensive line in NFL is typically more structured too, I'd say they'd be better able to slot into a League defensive pattern much easier, but still need to learn how to tackle properly that wouldnt see them sin-binned.
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@taniwharugby said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
not to mention fitness
I would argue there's a genetic element to that too. Different sports encourage different sorts of genetic freaks.
In sevens you're constantly going up and down from peak effort to moderate effort. Can an athlete who is a genetic freak in short bursts develop the same engine as Curry?
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@mariner4life said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
Carlin Isles is not DK Metcalf or Tyreek Hill or Derrick Henry.
If it's all they do for 12 months, gee i would love to see it.
Of course i wouldn't, because 7s pays what some of those guys make in
a weekan hour.Fixed.
I reckon you'd need to recruit about 50 guys from those positions, and use your 12 months to get them up to speed.
Some guys aren't going to stand up mentally to the change, and some aren't physically going to enjoy 5-7 minutes of flat out exertion.
Once the passing is taken care of - which I think is the biggest hurdle - I reckon the rest of it is piss-easy for 7s.
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@taniwharugby said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@mariner4life more the way they tackle, the defensive line in NFL is typically more structured too, I'd say they'd be better able to slot into a League defensive pattern much easier, but still need to learn how to tackle properly that wouldnt see them sin-binned.
I remember reading Seattle Seahawks were moving toward rugby style tackling several years ago in order to increase safety.
It also turned out to increase effectiveness.
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@duluth said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
not to mention fitness
I would argue there's a genetic element to that too. Different sports encourage different sorts of genetic freaks.
In sevens you're constantly going up and down from peak effort to moderate effort. Can an athlete who is a genetic freak in short bursts develop the same engine as Curry?
They'd have to love not carrying around 10kg of padding and helmet tho.
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France only just hold out Fiji, 12-5 not a bad game to be honest, very tough womens match
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@windows97 said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
Am glad for Fiji though, it's always nice to see a minnow come through and claim some Olympic glory
Fiji ain't no minnow
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@dogmeat I meant minnow as more in Fiji are a very small country rather than a reflection on their 7's ability.
Simply put Fiji's only realistic chance of a medal at these games was in the 7's so the whole country would have been hanging on that. The fact it's a gold medal is just, well - nice
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@mariner4life said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby tackle? The fuck do you think linebackers and safeties do all season? Read plays and make tackles.
I think you're grossly underestimating the difference.
What most people like this Zach clown is missing is that NFL rewards specificity. Quite different to 7s.
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@antipodean said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@mariner4life said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby tackle? The fuck do you think linebackers and safeties do all season? Read plays and make tackles.
I think you're grossly underestimating the difference.
What most people like this Zach clown is missing is that NFL rewards specificity. Quite different to 7s.
I'm not actually. If you took the 12 most suited NFL players and put them in the Olympic 7s they would get reemed. Like, Namibia in the 2003 RWC reemed. Record scores reemed.
In 12 months not so much. There are a lot of transferable skills. Ruby ain't that fucking complicated, Rugby 7s even less so.
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@nta said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@mariner4life more the way they tackle, the defensive line in NFL is typically more structured too, I'd say they'd be better able to slot into a League defensive pattern much easier, but still need to learn how to tackle properly that wouldnt see them sin-binned.
I remember reading Seattle Seahawks were moving toward rugby style tackling several years ago in order to increase safety.
It also turned out to increase effectiveness.
They had Waisale Serevi brought in as a specialist coach.
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@kiwimurph said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@nta said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@mariner4life more the way they tackle, the defensive line in NFL is typically more structured too, I'd say they'd be better able to slot into a League defensive pattern much easier, but still need to learn how to tackle properly that wouldnt see them sin-binned.
I remember reading Seattle Seahawks were moving toward rugby style tackling several years ago in order to increase safety.
It also turned out to increase effectiveness.
They had Waisale Serevi brought in as a specialist coach.
Ha. Didn't know that. As fantastic as he was, defence wasn't exactly his forte, or was he bought in for something else?
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@mariner4life said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@antipodean said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@mariner4life said in 2020 -> 2021 Olympic Sevens (Tokyo):
@taniwharugby tackle? The fuck do you think linebackers and safeties do all season? Read plays and make tackles.
I think you're grossly underestimating the difference.
What most people like this Zach clown is missing is that NFL rewards specificity. Quite different to 7s.
I'm not actually. If you took the 12 most suited NFL players and put them in the Olympic 7s they would get reemed. Like, Namibia in the 2003 RWC reemed. Record scores reemed.
In 12 months not so much. There are a lot of transferable skills. Ruby ain't that fucking complicated, Rugby 7s even less so.
I honestly think it would take longer. The NFL is the cream of a wide pyramid playing american football for over a decade.
If the money was the same you'd see a very different picture, but it would also attract the best OS athletes to 7s as well.
