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<p>I'm guessing that quote is somewhat out of context. She's referring to a change in the rate of the on set of autism and IF that rate of change that occurred from 2000 to 2010 continues then ...<br><br>
She's not quoted as saying it's caused by vaccination or that it WILL continue ...<br><br>
Personally I blame sugar ... and Islam ...</p>
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<p>It's not an increase in the rates of Autism, it's an increase in the diagnosis of Autism. You have to understand that Autism is a very wide spectrum, and that the majority of Autistic people have never been diagnosed until recently. We still don't have a great understanding about the condition.</p>
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<p>My wife's sister is Autistic. She is the most honest, logical and pure hearted person I have ever met. My son loves her and she is by far the favourite Aunty. I wouldn't change her for the world.</p>
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<p>These freaks try to scaremonger as if it's some absolutely debilitating disease. Yes it has it's challenges, depending where on the spectrum your child falls, but there is no reason to believe they cannot live happy healthy lives.</p>
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<p>The less bullshit scaremongering and the more actual scientific research into this condition the better. There is no reluctance to talk about this in the scientific community, in fact there are many medical professionals that are doing amazing work in furthering our understanding of it. I cannot express to you how much I despise movies like the above and the people behind them. Incredibly frustrating that people are stupid enough to be fooled by this crap.</p> -
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<p>Unfortunately there's this from the movie De Niro was publicising <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://anhinternational.org/2016/03/23/16295/'>http://anhinternational.org/2016/03/23/16295/</a></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Roboto, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:20.8px;">Researcher Stephanie Seneff PhD from MIT says if things continue this way </span><em>“we can predict that by 2032, 80% of the boys born will end up on the autism spectrum. Half the children, 80% of the boys.</em><span style="font-family:Roboto, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:20.8px;"> </span><em>This is going to be a complete catastrophe if we just let it happen</em><span style="font-family:Roboto, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:20.8px;">â€.</span></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff</a></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff</a></p>
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<p>looking into the fat thing vs sugar thing.</p>
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<p>One thing I think most of the studies about food is don't look at is how little exercise we do now opposed to 20 years ago ~ both as adults and kids. I'm the last hold out on my street that hasn't got a snow blower. Hell even snow blowers are get phased out as people are buying small ride on diggers and ride on lawn mowers in the summer. Last summer my kids football coach thought I was evil incarnate as I made my kids walk to and from practice (its 2.5 km) ~ my sons also though I was a bit of a bastard as well. I did tell them to ride a bike ~ but they said it was too difficult carrying helmet and pads ~ I said If I could cycle with a crate of beer balanced on the crossbar when I was at Uni a bit of football gear should be an issue (that got me into trouble with the wife).</p>
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<p>The biggest problem is that most people are in total denial.</p>
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<p>I'm forever seeing fat people posting photos of themselves in their underwear to prove that they're gorgeous and reams of other fat bastards going "Oh, how gorgeous you are".</p>
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<p>And fat bastards going, "The BMI is complete crap - if it was right, I'd be obese....".</p>
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<p>Well, you are, you fat fluffybunny. As I posted elsewhere, Mark Sayers was an AB midfielder in the 1970s and weighed 71kgs.</p>
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<p>Get on a diet!</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">The BMI is complete crap - if it was right, I'd be obese....although I am no longer in the obese range (was 3 months ago) I sit at the top end of the overweight range.</span></p>
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I'm back to obese from morbidly so ...<br><br>
I need to lose weight, Happy if the BMI is driving me to do so.<br><br>
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<p>I'm back to obese from morbidly so ...<br><br>
I need to lose weight, Happy if the BMI is driving me to do so.<br><br>
Wasn't BMI something developed in the 50s by insurance companies to try and work out the risk of being overweight? Will have to Google. I read it somewhere.</p>
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<p>It was developed by Scientists using Science, Scientifically.</p> -
<p>Aaron Cruden is overweight with BMI at 27.4, fat fucker!!</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff</a></p>
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<p>Aaron Cruden is overweight with BMI at 27.4, fat fucker!!</p>
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<p>I always like normal tubbo's, when told they are obese, going "well this massively muscled super fit pro athlete is technically obese too so I must be fine!!"</p>
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<p>Yes, assuming you have a similar muscle level / fat % to that guy.</p>
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<p>Which you don't.</p>
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<p>I always like normal tubbo's, when told they are obese, going "well this massively muscled super fit pro athlete is technically obese too so I must be fine!!"<br><br>
Yes, assuming you have a similar muscle level / fat % to that guy.<br><br>
Which you don't.<br><br>
You sofa dwelling cake hooving one man pie-apocalypse.</p>
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<p>I don't have the same BMI as Cruden, I wasn't comparing myself to Cruden, cos my body shape is not anything like Cruden, I am also taller, just reiterating BMI is not a one size fits all definition for measuring people's overweightness (even most Doctors will say this)<br><br>
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I always like normal tubbo's, when told they are obese, going "well this massively muscled super fit pro athlete is technically obese too so I must be fine!!"<br><br>
Yes, assuming you have a similar muscle level / fat % to that guy.<br><br>
Which you don't.<br><br>
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<p>makes me laugh too, when plebs on the internet think they know you better than you and your Dr. do...oh how I laugh.</p>
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<p>makes me laugh too, when plebs on the internet think they know you better than you and your Dr. do...oh how I laugh.</p>
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<p>Spoken like a true fatty in denial. :)</p>
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<p>The All Blacks argument goes the other way too, I'd wager that the Kenyan marathon team would all be classed as severely underweight using the BMI system.</p>
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<p>you're an idiot if you think it works accross the board. But for the general (non weight lifting, non proffessional athlete) population it's a pretty good guide.</p> -
<p>I'd of 'run' it faster if I was better was better prepared, I know if I decide to do it next year, I'll be surprised if I cant knock >30mins off my time.</p>
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<p>I haven't been in the 'healthy' BMI range for over 20 years, and I know since then I have always been 'overweight' or 'obese' and over decent periods of that I was bloody fit and extremely active so while BMI is a tool that can be used, but do so in conjunction with talking to your Doctor, so I'd argue it isn't an ideal fir for the 'general' population.</p>
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