Euros
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Engerrrrrland!
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And another, oooh excited now
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Ok in fairness to shaw he’s sent in the cross for the last 2 goals.
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@billy-tell said in Euros:
Can someone who knows about soccer tell me the point of Luke shaw? I see a holding midfielder with no attacking instinct whose signature move is a gentle tap backwards to the defensive line.
Am I missing something?
Ha ha. He must have heard you. Two assists now
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@billy-tell snap
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@billy-tell said in Euros:
Can someone who knows about soccer tell me the point of Luke shaw? I see a holding midfielder with no attacking instinct whose signature move is a gentle tap backwards to the defensive line.
Am I missing something?
Yes. He is a defender. For starters. Left back tonight in a back 4.
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@billy-tell said in Euros:
Can someone who knows about soccer tell me the point of Luke shaw? I see a holding midfielder with no attacking instinct whose signature move is a gentle tap backwards to the defensive line.
Am I missing something?
Yes. He is a defender. For starters. Left back tonight in a back 4.
Yeah I get that but he pushes up into midfield gets the ball and then tamely passes it back.
I suppose with Sterling doing his thing he doesn’t really need to offer much.
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Not sure what more one-sided. ABs va a Tongan club side of eng vs Ukraine.
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@billy-tell said in Euros:
Can someone who knows about soccer tell me the point of Luke shaw? I see a holding midfielder with no attacking instinct whose signature move is a gentle tap backwards to the defensive line.
Am I missing something?
Yes. He is a defender. For starters. Left back tonight in a back 4.
His crosses have been extraordinary.
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@billy-tell said in Euros:
@billy-tell said in Euros:
Can someone who knows about soccer tell me the point of Luke shaw? I see a holding midfielder with no attacking instinct whose signature move is a gentle tap backwards to the defensive line.
Am I missing something?
Yes. He is a defender. For starters. Left back tonight in a back 4.
Yeah I get that but he pushes up into midfield gets the ball and then tamely passes it back.
I suppose with Sterling doing his thing he doesn’t really need to offer much.
It is probably their weakest position in their 11, or maybe the goalkeeper, but that is relative, they have good players. When I lived in England they literally had no left back or left footed winger for about 2 years until a 20 year old Ashley Cole turned up on scene.
What he brings, defensive solidity and a good left foot for set pieces. Doesnt seem to have much pace, not much overlapping. Chilwell, who is other player in his position is more attacking but hasnt played a minute. In fact Trippier has been played out of position on left twice now ahead of Chilwell.
I dont watch enough football to properly answer though.
There's other factors. Whether playing back 4 or back 3 with wing backs, what formation opposition play and hence where the space is (Ukraine switched to back 4 after injury so less space to overlap into in theory, but that is 'off camera'). International v club football and whether have cohesion to high press and play ultra attacking full backs such as TTA.
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@billy-tell said in Euros:
@billy-tell said in Euros:
Can someone who knows about soccer tell me the point of Luke shaw? I see a holding midfielder with no attacking instinct whose signature move is a gentle tap backwards to the defensive line.
Am I missing something?
Yes. He is a defender. For starters. Left back tonight in a back 4.
Yeah I get that but he pushes up into midfield gets the ball and then tamely passes it back.
I suppose with Sterling doing his thing he doesn’t really need to offer much.
It is probably their weakest position in their 11, or maybe the goalkeeper, but that is relative, they have good players. When I lived in England they literally had no left back or left footed winger for about 2 years until a 20 year old Ashley Cole turned up on scene.
What he brings, defensive solidity and a good left foot for set pieces. Doesnt seem to have much pace, not much overlapping. Chilwell, who is other player in his position is more attacking but hasnt played a minute. In fact Trippier has been played out of position on left twice now ahead of Chilwell.
I dont watch enough football to properly answer though.
There's other factors. Whether playing back 4 or back 3 with wing backs, what formation opposition play and hence where the space is (Ukraine switched to back 4 after injury so less space to overlap into in theory, but that is 'off camera'). International v club football and whether have cohesion to high press and play ultra attacking full backs such as TTA.
Shaw did cross to Kane and Maguire for their goals....
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Huge win for England
History beckons
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@mikethesnow Losing in another SF?
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Watching England the way that they play was unrecogniseable from the team of the 80-90's.
Project England might have actually worked.
Bya nd large they were so comfortable on the ball. It was their first touch that made them stand out from their predecessors and gave them the time to actually create things.
Very un Ing-ga-lund like. Albeit was only Ukraine
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Watching England the way that they play was unrecogniseable from the team of the 80-90's.
Project England might have actually worked.
Bya nd large they were so comfortable on the ball. It was their first touch that made them stand out from their predecessors and gave them the time to actually create things.
Very un Ing-ga-lund like. Albeit was only Ukraine
You are right. Very little route 1 football there. Guys like Hoddle and Gazza would have loved playing with these guys
