2021 New Zealand U20s
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@bobily2 Eligibility has nothing to do with a scholarship. It's about where the player's permanent and primary home was when he was still a student/ before the age of majority.
Oh, and Segner was on a scholarship from Nelson College.
- What is the position of students?
As far as students are concerned, particularly those that are not financially independent, being resident, as a full-time student, in another country, is likely to be considered as a series of temporary absences from the parental home. It is anticipated that in the majority of cases involving students the parental home is likely to continue to constitute the student’s permanent and primary home. Accordingly, attendance at school by a person who has not yet reached the age of majority in such circumstances is unlikely to break a Player’s consecutive period of Residence. However, as in all matters of eligibility, the overriding concern of the Regulations Committee in assessing any such case will be to ensure that there remains a close, credible and established link with the country in which the Player claims to have retained his primary and permanent home. There could be circumstances in which a student living in another country may wish to elect to commence a new period of residency in the country in which they are studying, for example where the Player is attending college/university (having reached the age of majority) in the jurisdiction of another Union and has relocated there on a permanent basis i.e. has only taken short breaks away from that new country as set out in paragraph 16 above. In cases involving students, the relevant Union and Player are advised to request a ruling from the Regulations Committee to ensure compliance in advance of the Player representing the Union. It is not permissible for a Union or educational establishment to offer scholarships or other benefits that restrict a Player’s ability to choose which Union they wish to represent.
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@taniwharugby said in 2021 New Zealand U20s:
@stargazer Taniela Tupou had Visa issues too didnt he, which is why he ended up in Aus (wasnt Kefu the same?)
I think you may be thinking of Willie O.
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@nepia said in 2021 New Zealand U20s:
@bovidae said in 2021 New Zealand U20s:
@nepia He is named in the squad so must be. Reece played for NZ Schools but wasn't eligible for the U20s, so was not included.
Yeah, obviously, but what is the difference between him and Fakatava and Reece? Did his whole family move out here?
Could he play a test for the All Blacks on Saturday?
Segner came to NZ by himself, not with his family. He could not play for the ABs on Saturday, because he hasn't met the 3-year residency requirement yet. That's unless they can convince WR that the residency period should start running before he finished school and/or turned 18 (ie. had his permanent and primary home in NZ and not his parental home in Germany).
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@stargazer said in 2021 New Zealand U20s:
@bobily2 Eligibility has nothing to do with a scholarship. It's about where the player's permanent and primary home was when he was still a student/ before the age of majority.
Oh, and Segner was on a scholarship from Nelson College.
- What is the position of students?
As far as students are concerned, particularly those that are not financially independent, being resident, as a full-time student, in another country, is likely to be considered as a series of temporary absences from the parental home. It is anticipated that in the majority of cases involving students the parental home is likely to continue to constitute the student’s permanent and primary home. Accordingly, attendance at school by a person who has not yet reached the age of majority in such circumstances is unlikely to break a Player’s consecutive period of Residence. However, as in all matters of eligibility, the overriding concern of the Regulations Committee in assessing any such case will be to ensure that there remains a close, credible and established link with the country in which the Player claims to have retained his primary and permanent home. There could be circumstances in which a student living in another country may wish to elect to commence a new period of residency in the country in which they are studying, for example where the Player is attending college/university (having reached the age of majority) in the jurisdiction of another Union and has relocated there on a permanent basis i.e. has only taken short breaks away from that new country as set out in paragraph 16 above. In cases involving students, the relevant Union and Player are advised to request a ruling from the Regulations Committee to ensure compliance in advance of the Player representing the Union. It is not permissible for a Union or educational establishment to offer scholarships or other benefits that restrict a Player’s ability to choose which Union they wish to represent.
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Ahh, journalists reporting on Sevu Reece led me astray. I did actually look to corroborate that first.
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The NZ Schoolboys team do (or did) appear to have a different eligibility criteria than the U20s because there is an extra chef in the kitchen (The New Zealand Schools Rugby Council ).
From 2017 NZH article, re: Tupou
But Tupou, who was born in Tonga, is not a New Zealand passport holder and will not be eligible to play for the national secondary schools team later this year.
The New Zealand Rugby Union (NZRU), in conjunction with the New Zealand Schools Rugby Council (NZSRC), has decreed only players with New Zealand passports can be pickedAs recently as last year rugby administrators made exemptions for boys who didn't have passports as long as they had signed contracts with New Zealand provincial rugby unions. At this year's annual meeting, however, the NZSRC confirmed no exceptions would be made in 2014, meaning New Zealand will reject one of the most promising players in the country.
Obviously, this didn't apply pre 2014.
Does it still apply? who knows .... Segner played 2 years later.
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In Palmerston North under still, cloudy skies, the New Zealand U20s had their opening match of 2021 against a ‘Wellington XV’.
Both teams rans with engorged squads, Wellington playing a completely different XV in each half and the U20s making almost as many changes at halftime.
The match did not carry first-class status, and served as a glorified trial for both camps.
That stated, it was a proper scoring match and the New Zealand U20s won 40-0, outscoring Wellington six tries to nil.
The New Zealand U20s scored five tries in the first half and led 33-0 at halftime. The closest Wellington came to scoring was right at the end of the first half from a forwards drive at the line that was defended.
They scored first half tries through right wing Chay Fihaki (2, who also kicked four first half conversions), No. 8 Vaioilini Ekuasi, hooker Soane Vikena and fullback Ruben Love (who later moved into first five).
The second half was closer, as the scoreline suggests, but both teams turned over a lot of ball and the game became disjointed towards the end. The U20s finished their scoring about 10 minutes into the second half with a try to loose forward Fabian Holland from a penalty and lineout drive.
Wins for Wellington College, Mana College and NZ U20s in midweek matches
By Adam Julian & Steven White Wellington College beat Rongotai College in their annual traditional, Mana College locked the Beard Trophy away for the year by beating Aotea College and the New Z…
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2021 Oceania Rugby U20 Championship Postponed
Following consultation with Rugby Australia and New Zealand Rugby, who were due to contest the title, Oceania Rugby announced today the tough decision to postpone the 2021 Oceania Rugby U20 Championship.
The Championship was scheduled to take place on Tuesday 6 and Saturday 10 July 2021 at Bond University on the Gold Coast Australia.
Due to the current COVID-19 outbreak in Australia Oceania Rugby with the two teams determined the evolving border restrictions presented unavoidable challenges in teams and officials assembling for the matches.Oceania Rugby continues to adjust the 2021 tournament schedule and looks forward to announcing a new date for the 2021 Oceania Rugby U20 Championship.
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https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-20-ready-for-home-campaign/
The New Zealand Under 20s have turned their attention to a domestic series of matches, with ongoing traveling restrictions seeing the cancellation of their Oceania fixtures against Australia, in Australia.
Due to fly to Australia for a two-match series, the team will now remain at home, with matches against a Harlequins XV, Ta$man Mako XV and the Cook Islands.The New Zealand Under 20 campaign is:
v Wellington, June 30 in Palmerston North – 40-0 Win
v Harlequins XV, July 7 in Hamilton, kick off 2.30pm at FMG Stadium
v Ta$man Mako, July 11 in Blenheim, kick off 2.30pm at Lansdowne Park
v Cook Islands, July 17 in Auckland, kick off 12noon at Dilworth CollegeThe New Zealand Under 20 team for today’s match is:
1: Joe Gavigan (Manawatu)
2: Soane Vikena (Auckland)
3: Sione Ahio (Auckland)
4: Fabian Holland (Otago)
5: Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
6: TK Howden (Manawatu)
7: Anton Segner ( Ta$man)
8: Vaiolini Ekuasi (Auckland)
9: Cortez Lee Ratima (Waikato)
10: Aidan Morgan (Wellington
11: Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Taranaki)
12: Corey Evans (Auckland)
13: Gideon Wrampling (Waikato)
14: Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
15: Ruben Love (Wellington)16: George Bell (Canterbury)
17: Jack Sexton (Canterbury)
18: Luca Inch ( Ta$man)
19: Dom Gardiner (Canterbury)
20: Sean Withy (Otago)
21: Nathan Hastie (Otago)
22: Peter Lakai (Wellington)
23: Te Paea Cook Savage (Waikato)
25: Nathaniel Peters (Taranaki)
27: Riley Higgins (Wellington)
28: Meihana Grindlay (Auckland)
29: Manu Paea (Auckland)
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Is Jack Sexton Mat Sexton's kid?
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@crazy-horse Yes. Dominic is the son of Angus.
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Nice for the U20s players to get a run, but pretty meaningless playing against teams like that Harlequins team. Maybe a Ta$man Mako XV, depending who are playing, might offer some opposition, but today's game will be very lopsided. Couldn't they form a NZ Barbarians U20 team from all the U20 players that didn't make the NZ U20 squad? Are some of them in that Harlequins team?
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