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@mn5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Interesting weather and weather forecast to go kayaking in. Hope they've made it to shore safe and sound though!
Wow, kayaking in this shit is dumber than holding a sign in front of a bunch of riders in the Tour de France.
Especially when this weather has been flagged up for a while as a severe warning and people on that coast told to get out of their houses.
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@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mn5 It's also incredibly selfish. Shits me no end when rescue teams have to risk their lives because some dumb shit goes somewhere sometime they shouldn't.
Indeed. It’s not like they have to go out on a kayak to feed their families. What a pair of fucken morons.
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They both got eaten by the shark in the wave in that picture. Or have I just channeled @Fullermorg ?
I have actually seen a shark in a wave like that, at Piha so not complete imagination.
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those kayakers should be sent the bill!!
“It was great, we live for this stuff, getting out before work and enjoying it out there, really good surf," he said.
“We play it safe, I can hardly talk, my mouth’s frozen.“We’ve got all the safety equipment, we love it, we enjoy it.
“It’s only for experienced paddlers, if you’re not experienced you wouldn’t go out in this stuff, we always play it safe.”
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If we stop people doing this sort of shit we are taking further steps to becoming a nanny state. Not something I would have done but I respect their right to do it.
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@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
What they probably should have done was notify SAR they were going out, where they were going so they knew they didnt need 'rescuing' when reports came in there were people out kayaking.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
Occupational hazard.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
What they probably should have done was notify SAR they were going out, where they were going so they knew they didnt need 'rescuing' when reports came in there were people out kayaking.
Massive upvote. Selfish entitled pricks.
No different to going up mountains. Tell someone what your plan is so they only need to endanger themselves if it is obvious that the plan didn't work. Apart from that you are welcome to go for it.
The simple fact that they took off from Seatoun dictates a need to tell others which way they were going (harbour or heads) -
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
Occupational hazard.
I'm assuming that comment is made with tongue planted firmly in cheek?
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@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
Occupational hazard.
I'm assuming that comment is made with tongue planted firmly in cheek?
Why would you assume that?
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
What they probably should have done was notify SAR they were going out, where they were going so they knew they didnt need 'rescuing' when reports came in there were people out kayaking.
Not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment, but where do we draw the line? At everyone going out on the water at any time? When conditions are bad? If the later, who decides when conditions are bad enough? Public opinion after the fact is not fair.
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@crazy-horse well there are warnings about the seas, ferries are cancelled, some coastal areas told to prepare for inundation.
I think it would be courtesy for them to notify SAR of thier intentions, I expect they didnt, cos they knew they'd advise them not to.
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@snowy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
They also shouldn't expect rescuing.
I dont expect they did, but thats the thing, if they notified SAR, they neednt have attempted a 'rescue', when according to this guy, they guys were prepared for the conditions.
a simple phone call could have meant the only risk was to the fellas who chose to go out, not additonal people who really didnt need to go at all.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
Occupational hazard.
I'm assuming that comment is made with tongue planted firmly in cheek?
Why would you assume that?
It just seemed rather dismissive to me.
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@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@crazy-horse and if one of the SAR guys had been injured or worse attempting to 'rescue' them?
Occupational hazard.
I'm assuming that comment is made with tongue planted firmly in cheek?
Why would you assume that?
It just seemed rather dismissive to me.
As you were.Concise, not dismissive.
SAR provide a valuable service but aren't beholden to rescuing people. At all times they can make the determination that it's too dangerous.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
At all times they can make the determination that it's too dangerous.
Yep.
We didn't have controls and regs when I had to do some of it and it was dangerous. A narrow valley that I thought was the most likely to find a crash site in (and was correct) was also where a mate thought the same thing.
We missed by a couple of feet searching. Three plane crashes in one jungle valley. Great ay?
