2021 Crusaders
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@stargazer said in 2021 Crusaders:
@chris Do you have an online source for Hall re-signing. Can't remember seeing it.
It was mentioned online somewhere in an article on stuff but through a source linked to the crusaders I am certain of it.
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@crazy-horse said in 2021 Crusaders:
@chris said in 2021 Crusaders:
@stargazer said in 2021 Crusaders:
@chris If Sanders is leaving, Matera is taking his spot. If they're really not replacing Alaalatoa, then they can fill a spot somewhere else. It will be interesting to find out where that will be.
I'd also like to know whether Enari and Hall are staying. Hall because he might go for the coin; Enari, because he again doesn't/won't get much game time if Hall is staying.
Tbh, I don't see what they see in McLeod. He wasn't good for NZU20s and still isn't. Of course, he's a rookie at this level, but I haven't seen much talent shine through either. I would have liked to see Punivai play at some point, but I guess the youngster has to wait until next season.
If Cameron is leaving, who'll replace him? Campbell Parata?
Hall has resigned for 2022 Enari I am not sure on.
I was hoping Enari would have kicked on to a regular starting/bench spot by now. Maybe he just doesn't have the goods.
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@crazy-horse said in 2021 Crusaders:
@stargazer agree, McLeod has been very disappointing. Some people talked him up on here a few years ago, but I don't see anything that suggests he will be good.
He only made his Canterbury debut in 2019 and that was out of position on the wing. Can't recall how much he played for Canterbury last season but this year for the Crusaders he's had very limited opportunities again. He did play one impressive game at 12 though this season. Can't recall which game, but he was universally praised.
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@shark said in 2021 Crusaders:
@crazy-horse said in 2021 Crusaders:
@stargazer agree, McLeod has been very disappointing. Some people talked him up on here a few years ago, but I don't see anything that suggests he will be good.
He only made his Canterbury debut in 2019 and that was out of position on the wing. Can't recall how much he played for Canterbury last season but this year for the Crusaders he's had very limited opportunities again. He did play one impressive game at 12 though this season. Can't recall which game, but he was universally praised.
I could very well be judging him too harshly, but usually young ones who are going to be any good show early on that they have a particular 'weapon' that sets them apart. I don't see one in McLeod yet except maybe his size. Would love to be wrong.
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@crazy-horse I'm just reserving judgement on him until he's had a decent run in his preferred position.
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@shark said in 2021 Crusaders:
@crazy-horse I'm just reserving judgement on him until he's had a decent run in his preferred position.
That sort of carry on is not allowed on the Fern.
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Scott Robertson is on the cusp of re-signing with New Zealand Rugby (NZR), but not before some finer details are sorted.
It's understood they’re regarding contract length, an exit clause, and NZR’s process around appointing an All Blacks coach after the 2023 World Cup.The winner of three Super Rugby titles, and two Super Rugby Aotearoa crowns, has also repeatedly made it clear he wants to stay put, and that aspirations to coach the All Blacks remained.
However, the timing of the appointment process after the 2023 World Cup is something Robertson has to consider as he prepares to lock in his future.
Foster wasn’t confirmed as Steve Hansen’s replacement until December 11, 2019, and the process in 2023 would again likely be late in the year, given the World Cup in France isn’t scheduled to conclude until October 21.
Signing through 2023 and again missing out on the top job could leave him in a tricky position regarding his next move.
It’s understood signing through 2024, but having an option to exit if he doesn’t land the All Blacks job, is being considered.The Crusaders are set to farewell a bunch of players now that their 2021 campaign is over, including tighthead prop Michael Alaalatoa (Leinster), who finished with 99 Crusaders caps.
Wing Manasa Mataele (32 caps) is understood to have signed with the Perth-based Western Force, while loose forwards Tom Sanders (Japan) and Whetukamokamo Douglas (TBC) are also departing.
So - if this article is correct - does this mean it's already a done deal that Foster and co. will be re-appointed for 2022 and 2023? That sucks big time! -
@stargazer No it doesn’t mean a done deal, just that Razor wants to be here for another 2 years min, and if he doesn’t get ABs coah at the end of this season, he wants it next RWC - and how that appt process works is what they are looking at.
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@stargazer A bit disappointing to lose Tom Sanders. I don't think we've ever seen the best of him.
But, I guess with Matera on the way, the writing was on the wall for Sanders and Douglas.
So - next year's loosies - Tom Christie, Sione Havili, Ethan Blackadder, Anton Segner, Cullen Grace and Matera - with Dunshea and Barrett providing a bit of cover? Might need one more?
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@chris-b said in 2021 Crusaders:
@stargazer A bit disappointing to lose Tom Sanders. I don't think we've ever seen the best of him.
But, I guess with Matera on the way, the writing was on the wall for Sanders and Douglas.
So - next year's loosies - Tom Christie, Sione Havili, Ethan Blackadder, Anton Segner, Cullen Grace and Matera - with Dunshea and Barrett providing a bit of cover? Might need one more?
Zac Gallagher is the one on the radar covers lock as well
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@stargazer said in 2021 Crusaders:
Scott Robertson is on the cusp of re-signing with New Zealand Rugby (NZR), but not before some finer details are sorted.
It's understood they’re regarding contract length, an exit clause, and NZR’s process around appointing an All Blacks coach after the 2023 World Cup.The winner of three Super Rugby titles, and two Super Rugby Aotearoa crowns, has also repeatedly made it clear he wants to stay put, and that aspirations to coach the All Blacks remained.
However, the timing of the appointment process after the 2023 World Cup is something Robertson has to consider as he prepares to lock in his future.
Foster wasn’t confirmed as Steve Hansen’s replacement until December 11, 2019, and the process in 2023 would again likely be late in the year, given the World Cup in France isn’t scheduled to conclude until October 21.
Signing through 2023 and again missing out on the top job could leave him in a tricky position regarding his next move.
It’s understood signing through 2024, but having an option to exit if he doesn’t land the All Blacks job, is being considered.The Crusaders are set to farewell a bunch of players now that their 2021 campaign is over, including tighthead prop Michael Alaalatoa (Leinster), who finished with 99 Crusaders caps.
Wing Manasa Mataele (32 caps) is understood to have signed with the Perth-based Western Force, while loose forwards Tom Sanders (Japan) and Whetukamokamo Douglas (TBC) are also departing.
So - if this article is correct - does this mean it's already a done deal that Foster and co. will be re-appointed for 2022 and 2023? That sucks big time!i think people need to be prepared to accept that there is very little chance of Foster getting fired this year.
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@mariner4life said in 2021 Crusaders:
@stargazer said in 2021 Crusaders:
Scott Robertson is on the cusp of re-signing with New Zealand Rugby (NZR), but not before some finer details are sorted.
It's understood they’re regarding contract length, an exit clause, and NZR’s process around appointing an All Blacks coach after the 2023 World Cup.The winner of three Super Rugby titles, and two Super Rugby Aotearoa crowns, has also repeatedly made it clear he wants to stay put, and that aspirations to coach the All Blacks remained.
However, the timing of the appointment process after the 2023 World Cup is something Robertson has to consider as he prepares to lock in his future.
Foster wasn’t confirmed as Steve Hansen’s replacement until December 11, 2019, and the process in 2023 would again likely be late in the year, given the World Cup in France isn’t scheduled to conclude until October 21.
Signing through 2023 and again missing out on the top job could leave him in a tricky position regarding his next move.
It’s understood signing through 2024, but having an option to exit if he doesn’t land the All Blacks job, is being considered.The Crusaders are set to farewell a bunch of players now that their 2021 campaign is over, including tighthead prop Michael Alaalatoa (Leinster), who finished with 99 Crusaders caps.
Wing Manasa Mataele (32 caps) is understood to have signed with the Perth-based Western Force, while loose forwards Tom Sanders (Japan) and Whetukamokamo Douglas (TBC) are also departing.
So - if this article is correct - does this mean it's already a done deal that Foster and co. will be re-appointed for 2022 and 2023? That sucks big time!i think people need to be prepared to accept that there is very little chance of Foster getting fired this year.
You're probably right, unless the year is an utter disaster
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@machpants very hard to measure success when we will walk the tests v the PI teams.
2 year contract, and then Covid put paid to any chance of them shipping him off this year.
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@taniwharugby said in 2021 Crusaders:
@machpants very hard to measure success when we will walk the tests v the PI teams.
2 year contract, and then Covid put paid to any chance of them shipping him off this year.
We'll still have the RC, with SA, and (maybe) NH tour. But as I said, utter disaster, loss to Fiji!
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if he loses the Bledisloe to that so very ordinary Wallaby outfit (like they damn near did last year) then firing is way too good for him.
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@machpants I expect negotiations with him (or Scott) will be well advanced already, and barring a disaster (as you point out) I expect things wont change...
I mean what KPIs are they likely to have for him to stay put?
Score 50+ in each game v Island nations?
Retain Bled would be one, but will they have win RC as a must?
