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@raznomore @voodoo it was interesting that Lebron also changed his tune about the play-in just yesterday.
He was very critical of it a while back and talked about someone should lose their job etc, but the play-in is being widely supported by many ex-NBA players turned commentators. It’s also brought a bit of extra buy in from the fans.
So instead of continuing his criticism he just talked up Steph and him being the MVP etc.
Smart man that Lebron 😉
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@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:
@raznomore said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo I can't stand the flops. He started the modern super team trend. He owns the pop culture media (he loses and plays shit but yet his highlights dominate ESPN, Bleacher report etc). His shoes are cool though( I got jr his first pair and I covet them often, shame he's size 13.5 and I'm a 12). I'll take my J's though, thanks.
In seriousness he just represents everything that a player should be. He's the most athletic player ever and his pass first attitude is what you coach your kids. But fuck LeBron.
Started the modern super team trend? Don't you mean Boston Celtics' big three?
No way were that Celtics ‘big three’ anything close to the Miami big three.
Lebron and D Wade we’re both genuine superstars before they came together (and I don’t use superstar flippantly like some do). Bosh I class as a very very good All-Star, but again he was that player before the move to Miami.
When the Celts came together, KG wasn’t yet a superstar, that came when he was at the Celts. Pierce had been an all-Star and he and Antoine Walker weren’t a bad scoring duo, but that was it for Pierce. Ray Allen had come off a big season with Seattle, was 32 years old and looking for some playoff glory.
I’ve said it before, but I wasn’t a big fan of Lebron and his play particularly the latter Miami years and return to Cavs, was damn frustrating to watch. But he’s grown on me and I don’t mind him. That 0-4 loss to the Warriors in the finals, he was all class. Then the tough season with the Lakers and then to win the chip the next year with him playing amazing at his age was phenomenal.
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I've always been a bit non-plussed re LeBron. But yesterday he posted some more arrogant shit about his scoring feats, claiming once again he's the GOAT. Between shit like that and the "where's my damn respect?" garbage, he comes across a as petulant brat and I'm sure he won't rest or be satisfied until he's universally lauded throughout the basketball world as the GOAT. Which is never going to happen.
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@shark you mean this?
He's definitely a bit of a dick.
And he def whines about calls, but he also gets hacked to bits, much like Shaq did.
I dobt have any great love for him, I just don't understand the hate. Is he too woke, too outspoken? I dunno. But he sure does a heap of good stuff for poor kids so I'm happy to overlook his try-hard-ness
And I agree, he's just not the GOAT . I think he'll finish with the best career of all time but he's just not the 1st guy you pick to play the aliens, that's MJ every single time.
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@act-crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:
@raznomore said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo I can't stand the flops. He started the modern super team trend. He owns the pop culture media (he loses and plays shit but yet his highlights dominate ESPN, Bleacher report etc). His shoes are cool though( I got jr his first pair and I covet them often, shame he's size 13.5 and I'm a 12). I'll take my J's though, thanks.
In seriousness he just represents everything that a player should be. He's the most athletic player ever and his pass first attitude is what you coach your kids. But fuck LeBron.
Started the modern super team trend? Don't you mean Boston Celtics' big three?
No way were that Celtics ‘big three’ anything close to the Miami big three.
Lebron and D Wade we’re both genuine superstars before they came together (and I don’t use superstar flippantly like some do). Bosh I class as a very very good All-Star, but again he was that player before the move to Miami.
When the Celts came together, KG wasn’t yet a superstar, that came when he was at the Celts. Pierce had been an all-Star and he and Antoine Walker weren’t a bad scoring duo, but that was it for Pierce. Ray Allen had come off a big season with Seattle, was 32 years old and looking for some playoff glory.
I’ve said it before, but I wasn’t a big fan of Lebron and his play particularly the latter Miami years and return to Cavs, was damn frustrating to watch. But he’s grown on me and I don’t mind him. That 0-4 loss to the Warriors in the finals, he was all class. Then the tough season with the Lakers and then to win the chip the next year with him playing amazing at his age was phenomenal.
I think you're being too dismissive of that Boston Big 3, especially Garnett. His last year in MIN he had 22.4ppg and 12.8 rebounds, 4 assists and almost 2 blocks while being a defensive beast. He was awesome.
Even Ray Allen was 23/5/5 the year before joining Boston.
They were really good. Obviously not Lebron/Wade level individually, but very very good. And I think they fitted together more naturally than the Miami crew, where Bosh had to learn to be the stretch guy to open up the paint
Remember how awesome Rondo was back then too, yet how awful a shooter he was? Defenders used to sag 8 feet off him. Pretty amazing amazing the steady improvement he made throughout his career
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@act-crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@raznomore @voodoo it was interesting that Lebron also changed his tune about the play-in just yesterday.
He was very critical of it a while back and talked about someone should lose their job etc, but the play-in is being widely supported by many ex-NBA players turned commentators. It’s also brought a bit of extra buy in from the fans.
So instead of continuing his criticism he just talked up Steph and him being the MVP etc.
Smart man that Lebron 😉
this is part of why i can not warm to the bloke despite being fully aware of his incredible gifts.
damn near everything that comes out of his mouth appears to be targeted squarely at his legacy. Talk up Steph as the MVP? I just knocked out the MVP, who else can say that?
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@act-crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@raznomore @voodoo it was interesting that Lebron also changed his tune about the play-in just yesterday.
He was very critical of it a while back and talked about someone should lose their job etc, but the play-in is being widely supported by many ex-NBA players turned commentators. It’s also brought a bit of extra buy in from the fans.
So instead of continuing his criticism he just talked up Steph and him being the MVP etc.
Smart man that Lebron 😉
this is part of why i can not warm to the bloke despite being fully aware of his incredible gifts.
damn near everything that comes out of his mouth appears to be targeted squarely at his legacy. Talk up Steph as the MVP? I just knocked out the MVP, who else can say that?
It's all part of the mind games mate. Mutual respect yes. Lull him with compliments, yes. It will be decided on the floor
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@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:
Lull him with compliments
yeah, i am sure Steph Curry is really gonna be affected by that. As inexperienced in these moments as he is...
it's just bullshit to make everything about him again. as fucking usual.
I miss Tim Duncan
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:
Lull him with compliments
yeah, i am sure Steph Curry is really gonna be affected by that. As inexperienced in these moments as he is...
it's just bullshit to make everything about him again. as fucking usual.
I miss Tim Duncan
You're so cynical! Maybe he genuinely believes that Curry, who has lifted a fucking diabolically terrible team into the playoffs on the back of an astounding individual season, actually deserves the accolade?
Look at the numbers:
32 / 5.5 / 5.8 with a steal, on 48 / 42 / 92 shooting, that's fucking nuts. The Warriors are 2 and 7 when he doesn't play, and yet somehow they won 39 games to grab 8th.
It's the very definition of an MVP.
He'll never win obviously, but when the raging fav for the award is on a team that won just 8 games more, you can make a damn good case for him.
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@voodoo of course Steph deserves the MVP, he carried a G-League roster to a proper play-off spot, by himself. He didn't score at least 30 they lost. Every fucking team knew it, and he still stuck up insane numbers
Of course he won't win it, because somehow the MVP is tied in to team success
But yes, i am cynical, based purely on years of this bullshit.
And, i am still a team-first guy. I hate this "rings or nothing" legacy bullshit that has overtaken the chat about players (we've been over it before) and look who is in the middle of it? old "The Decision" himself
And you're bald too James!
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@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
and, because he's the fucking man, people are somehow giving his team a chance
they don't have a chance.
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo of course Steph deserves the MVP, he carried a G-League roster to a proper play-off spot, by himself. He didn't score at least 30 they lost. Every fucking team knew it, and he still stuck up insane numbers
Of course he won't win it, because somehow the MVP is tied in to team success
But yes, i am cynical, based purely on years of this bullshit.
And, i am still a team-first guy. I hate this "rings or nothing" legacy bullshit that has overtaken the chat about players (we've been over it before) and look who is in the middle of it? old "The Decision" himself
And you're bald too James!
At least Jokic also had an epic year. The advanced numbers are ludicrous.
Rings or legacy, where does Steph "please come play with me Kevin" Curry sit in that conversation...
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@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo of course Steph deserves the MVP, he carried a G-League roster to a proper play-off spot, by himself. He didn't score at least 30 they lost. Every fucking team knew it, and he still stuck up insane numbers
Of course he won't win it, because somehow the MVP is tied in to team success
But yes, i am cynical, based purely on years of this bullshit.
And, i am still a team-first guy. I hate this "rings or nothing" legacy bullshit that has overtaken the chat about players (we've been over it before) and look who is in the middle of it? old "The Decision" himself
And you're bald too James!
At least Jokic also had an epic year. The advanced numbers are ludicrous.
Rings or legacy, where does Steph "please come play with me Kevin" Curry sit in that conversation...
lol the myth rears its head
You mean the guy still at the team he was drafted to. a team that was a joke. then wasn't.
I don't give a fuck to be honest, i like Curry, and think he's the most maligned superstar i have ever seen. but i don't give a shit. I love that he's still at the same team, and hope he plays out. but it won't matter, he won his share, and didn't need to move.
A guy like Lilliard i respect. They haven't won, they won't win, he's a genuine superstar, and he's still there, banging it out for his team. That shit i respect.
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo of course Steph deserves the MVP, he carried a G-League roster to a proper play-off spot, by himself. He didn't score at least 30 they lost. Every fucking team knew it, and he still stuck up insane numbers
Of course he won't win it, because somehow the MVP is tied in to team success
But yes, i am cynical, based purely on years of this bullshit.
And, i am still a team-first guy. I hate this "rings or nothing" legacy bullshit that has overtaken the chat about players (we've been over it before) and look who is in the middle of it? old "The Decision" himself
And you're bald too James!
At least Jokic also had an epic year. The advanced numbers are ludicrous.
Rings or legacy, where does Steph "please come play with me Kevin" Curry sit in that conversation...
lol the myth rears its head
You mean the guy still at the team he was drafted to. a team that was a joke. then wasn't.
I don't give a fuck to be honest, i like Curry, and think he's the most maligned superstar i have ever seen. but i don't give a shit. I love that he's still at the same team, and hope he plays out. but it won't matter, he won his share, and didn't need to move.
A guy like Lilliard i respect. They haven't won, they won't win, he's a genuine superstar, and he's still there, banging it out for his team. That shit i respect.
Thats different thing though. We all love guys who stay with 1 team, the reality is thats going to happen less and less. Look at the real workforce, our grandparents stayed in 1 job for 50 years, our parents for 30yrs. We move every 5-10 and the young kids every fucking 2 years!
Money, fame, mates, lifestyle. You just won't get many lifers going forward .
Steph was also lucky to get drafted by GSW. If it was Toronto then I'm pretty sure he wouldn't still be there...
Out of interest, why do you say he is "most maligned "? He is universally loved, probably the most popular NBA star of the last 10years, multiple MVP winner.
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@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
Out of interest, why do you say he is "most maligned "? He is universally loved, probably the most popular NBA star of the last 10years, multiple MVP winner.
read any NBA board and i reckon it's 70-30 people who think he's nothing, still has to prove himself, can't carry a team blah blah blah.
"oh he's never been a finals MVP, 30th best player ever AT BEST"
it's weird as fuck. NBA fans are really different.
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
Out of interest, why do you say he is "most maligned "? He is universally loved, probably the most popular NBA star of the last 10years, multiple MVP winner.
read any NBA board and i reckon it's 70-30 people who think he's nothing, still has to prove himself, can't carry a team blah blah blah.
"oh he's never been a finals MVP, 30th best player ever AT BEST"
it's weird as fuck. NBA fans are really different.
Plenty of dumbasses out there! There's a huge cohort of people who think Kobe was the GOAT!
Heck, I've even met some folk who don't like Lebron, go figure...
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@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
Out of interest, why do you say he is "most maligned "? He is universally loved, probably the most popular NBA star of the last 10years, multiple MVP winner.
read any NBA board and i reckon it's 70-30 people who think he's nothing, still has to prove himself, can't carry a team blah blah blah.
"oh he's never been a finals MVP, 30th best player ever AT BEST"
it's weird as fuck. NBA fans are really different.
Plenty of dumbasses out there! There's a huge cohort of people who think Kobe was the GOAT!
Heck, I've even met some folk who don't like Lebron, go figure...
Lakers fans are the fucking worst
especially those lakers fans who used to be Cavs fans, who used to be Heat fans...
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Spurs go home
Which is what happens when you give up 38 in the first
If you want a ridiculous stat line, Valanciunas had his filthy way with us, 23 points not bad, but 23 rebounds is obscene
