SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs
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McMillan's comments today around the 'controversial' decisions are pretty classy. Refreshing to read. Ricky Stuart might like to take note.
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@kiwipie said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
I'm still comfortable with both Taylor and Reece's yellow cards, however, I think both, particularly Reece's warrants further inspection from the citing commissioner...that said, if either, particularly Reece's had been a red, I'd have agreed with it too.
Reece could have been a red given previous examples of similar tackles. It would have been unjust for Taylor to get a red in my opinion, it was a bouncing ball that Dmac jumped for and all Taylor knew was it was overthrown and he needed to make a tackle. Yellow was fair.
I don't think Taylor should have got a red, but I don't agree with this, he was coming side on and had him in his sights the whole time, he could have let him land then hit him.
I don't think it should be minimised because of DMacs actions - it wasn't like the Lions game where then Lion jumped directly forward at the AB defender, Taylor had time to not hit him in the air.
Remember when Coles was our hooker we had to worry about for cards - Taylor has been pushing it far closer to the edge this year than Coles has.
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@shark said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.
Yeah you totally should have won. Any team who can't or won't take advantage of a two man advantage really deserves to win.
Did you actually read what I said? I said they didn't play to win. They didn't deserve it.
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@booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@snowy said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
Just the vibe I got from the game is I'm not as down about the All Blacks as I was. Played at pace with great skill.
Foster.
Don't buy in to the hate.
You should have added Luke, or Grasshopper, or something there, but a good tip thank you Obi-Wan or Master Po.
Actually not so much hate, he seems like a good bloke, just the lack of success as a head coach is a worry.
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@shark said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
Anyone mentioned the Dagg post-match interview with (I think, from memory) Richie, which might just be the least professional piece of sports broadcasting of all time?
Worse than Warnie asking every single aussie player how many stubbies they were going to have in 2015?
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@snowy said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@snowy said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
Just the vibe I got from the game is I'm not as down about the All Blacks as I was. Played at pace with great skill.
Foster.
Don't buy in to the hate.
You should have added Luke, or Grasshopper, or something there, but a good tip thank you Obi-Wan or Master Po.
Actually not so much hate, he seems like a good bloke, just the lack of success as a head coach is a worry.
I prefer Master Shifu, Panda.
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@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@chris if it wasn't a penalty it should have been a Chiefs 5m scrum as he touched it last.
Not sure about the new flaw variation, but in normal laws it would have been a 22 as the Chief's put it into the in-goal area.
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@booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@chris if it wasn't a penalty it should have been a Chiefs 5m scrum as he touched it last.
Not sure about the new flaw variation, but in normal laws it would have been a 22 as the Chief's put it into the in-goal area.
No. Defending player made it dead so 5m scrum. That isn't one of the reasons for goal line drop out either.
I think Pickerell was asleep at times.
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@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.
Yeah! The bloody refs missed at least 23 clear red card offences against the Crusaders. Favouritism!
If those 23 reds had been given the chiefs would have won easily.
Although the chief who sexually assaulted Reece by pulling down his pants probably should have been red carded too.Seems like the grapes growing on that hill you are waiting to die on are a bit sour.
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@taniwharugby said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.
Its only a penalty if he deliberately bats it dead, he doesn't have to try and ground it.
IMO he tried to hook at it to get it bagk to him, much like that attempt to intercept that doesn't quite come off.
*Law 10.2 (c) Throwing into touch. A player must not intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with his arm or hand into touch, touch-in-goal, or over the dead ball line.
Sanction: Penalty kick ...
A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise have been scored.*Sonny Bill did of course get a yellow card for deliberately doing it against France, and a penalty try against us. Angus Gardner did say afterwards that it shouldn't have been a yellow though (which he dished out).
The laws are so vague with regard to "intent" (refs aren't mind readers) but I agree in this case that he just failed to gather it or get it to ground cleanly.
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@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@shark said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@crazy-horse I didn't think they were too bad. After sobering up I don't think the Chiefs played to win. However, if Will Jordan's tackle on Jonah Lowe was high infront of the tryline, that's a penalty try. If the contact is direct to the head, that's a red card. Bridge didn't even try to ground the ball in the ingoal area which is a penalty.
Yeah you totally should have won. Any team who can't or won't take advantage of a two man advantage really deserves to win.
Did you actually read what I said?
Um, it's the fern...
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@crucial said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@booboo said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@yeetyaah said in SRA: Final. Crusaders vs Chiefs:
@chris if it wasn't a penalty it should have been a Chiefs 5m scrum as he touched it last.
Not sure about the new flaw variation, but in normal laws it would have been a 22 as the Chief's put it into the in-goal area.
No. Defending player made it dead so 5m scrum. That isn't one of the reasons for goal line drop out either.
I think Pickerell was asleep at times.
Think I may be channelling some 1980s memories ...
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Good game for the neutrals. Well done Chiefs for making it a great hour or so. If you had a decent kicker you might have taken it.😉
Amazing maul defence against 13!
All the confusion about red cards is entirely the fault of the rugby administrators. 3 red cards would have been dished out on the latest interpretations from the last world cup. We were told 2+2 always equals 4, and now it sometimes equals 3.
Bridge tried to force the ball my arse. Oh, it was a mistake so no penalty - do we apply that to every penalisable mistake?
Thank you Nisbo, time to go, your mis- naming is becoming a distraction.
Awesome defence and tackling from the Red forwards.
DMac will always only be a B+ player with intermittent flashes of an A player. Good lad though.
Havilli to start as AB 2nd five.
Gatland has improved his running game remarkably.
The best coach in NZ isn't in charge of the All Blacks
Well done Crusaders, great standards and excellent rugby.
Well done Chiefs, after last year and a paltry roster, they did bloody well. If it was my team I'd be proud as punch.Bring on the Aussies
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@siam good summation. Especially the Nisbo comment. It's becoming quite frequent and with that frequency comes annoyance and yes, distraction. At that point it becomes untenable having him continue. They probably need to make a call on it immediately and give him a farewell tour this season so he can bow out only a little on the downward slide.
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