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  • TimT Away
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    Ere Enari is another who might go to them.

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    I'll throw some names about. Haven't researched current contracts etc but am guessing that they may either be happy to move back or could be at the end of a bigger contract and ready to come home. Let me know where I am off the mark.

    Motu Matu'u
    Fio Paulo
    TJ Ioane
    Jack Lam
    Pele Cowley
    TNW

    Maybe both Lay brothers?

    I'm guessing that there are others scattered through lower divisions in UK/Europe that may trade to a similar pay here if the only left because they couldn't crack a NZ Super team.

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    They may attract guys like Luatua back home. I hope they can attract guys that are test capped for Island teams and left NZ because I am pretty sure there is a limt on how many overseas capped players in a NZ squad. Counties had a few guys that were test capped and they left probably because their choices were limited in NZ. Guys like Ahsee Tuala, Rey Lee-Lo, TNW, etc.

    As a counties fan I hope our island boys that left, come back and play for these guys and for counties in the NPC. This will be my other team that I will support.

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    Two Hawke's Bay players; Fomai currently with the Highlanders:

    Neria Fomai is Samoa capped - midfield
    Solomone Funaki is Tonga capped - backrow, preferably openside

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    @crucial Chris Vui (6/lock) might be another one.

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    @mikedogz said in Pasifika SR team:

    I hope they can attract guys that are test capped for Island teams and left NZ because I am pretty sure there is a limt on how many overseas capped players in a NZ squad. Counties had a few guys that were test capped and they left probably because their choices were limited in NZ. Guys like Ahsee Tuala, Rey Lee-Lo, TNW, etc.

    I saw this comment recently from Pacific Rugby Players chief executive, Aayden Clarke:

    There are limited opportunities in New Zealand and Australia because of the eligibility quotas in place. At the moment, players and their families have to go a long way offshore to earn a living. So quite simply, it would provide another option. There are many players we work with who love the opportunity to get away and live in Paris, UK or experience living in Japan and whatnot. It gives them a great lifestyle and experience. But at the moment that is the only option, so the ability to be a professional and stay closer to home and earn a living in this part of the world is hugely important.

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    @mikedogz said in Pasifika SR team:

    They may attract guys like Luatua back home. I hope they can attract guys that are test capped for Island teams and left NZ because I am pretty sure there is a limt on how many overseas capped players in a NZ squad. Counties had a few guys that were test capped and they left probably because their choices were limited in NZ. Guys like Ahsee Tuala, Rey Lee-Lo, TNW, etc.

    As a counties fan I hope our island boys that left, come back and play for these guys and for counties in the NPC. This will be my other team that I will support.

    How? Half a session of rugby, maybe a tenth the pay for Luatua, he's Captain of Bristol and on a bomb. Why would those sort of guys come back? And he still can't play for a PI team once he's here. Unless moana drag some serious talent from the islands, this is going to be kick in the teeth for the quality of NZ SR sides.

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    @machpants said in Pasifika SR team:

    @mikedogz said in Pasifika SR team:

    They may attract guys like Luatua back home. I hope they can attract guys that are test capped for Island teams and left NZ because I am pretty sure there is a limt on how many overseas capped players in a NZ squad. Counties had a few guys that were test capped and they left probably because their choices were limited in NZ. Guys like Ahsee Tuala, Rey Lee-Lo, TNW, etc.

    As a counties fan I hope our island boys that left, come back and play for these guys and for counties in the NPC. This will be my other team that I will support.

    How? Half a session of rugby, maybe a tenth the pay for Luatua, he's Captain of Bristol and on a bomb. Why would those sort of guys come back? And he still can't play for a PI team once he's here. Unless moana drag some serious talent from the islands, this is going to be kick in the teeth for the quality of NZ SR sides.

    What we are saying is that there are some reasonable quality players overseas because they can't work in NZ under the current rules and may like to return as this team won't have the cap on foreign players that NZ teams does.

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    @crucial I think we'll see (relatively) low quality players stay behind, cos their earnings won't be so far different. But the majority of the decent players will do the right thing for them and their family, play in NH for the money, and they can still play internationals.

    Edit: I hope I'm wrong but I'm really worried about this

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    I doubt that Jerome Kaino, John Afoa, Joe Rokocoko and co will be recommending that any of their PI player friends come back to play for Moana Pasifika.

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    @bovidae Were they all involved with the Hawaiian based bid? (Which I was highly skeptical of.)

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    @tim said in Pasifika SR team:

    @bovidae Were they all involved with the Hawaiian based bid? (Which I was highly skeptical of.)

    Yes, all were part of the Kanaloa Hawai’i Rugby group.

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    You won't attract guys earning significantly more overseas. You won't attract NZ born guys who want to play for their home team. Hard to see this not being a failure on the field.

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    @mofitzy_ said in Pasifika SR team:

    Hard to see this not being a failure on the field.

    Not just for them either.

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    Is there a financial burden on NZR for this team?

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    All reports suggest that Moana Pasifika and the Fijian Drua need to fund themselves.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124861521/super-rugby-australian-support-for-moana-pasifika-and-fiji-is-not-guaranteed

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    @taniwharugby said in Pasifika SR team:

    Is there a financial burden on NZR for this team?

    Yes because they are taking a cut of our broadcast revenue

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    @machpants shouldnt we get more money from the broadcast revenue due to supposedly enhancingthe product...

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    @taniwharugby said in Pasifika SR team:

    @machpants shouldnt we get more money from the broadcast revenue due to supposedly enhancingthe product...

    Dunno, but the deal is done? I really don't know - I know the sunwoves didn't get a cut

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    Short of an extremely strict set of qualification rules, this idea is just fucked. Completely and utterly fucked. For NZ rugby. And the irony is if the qualification isnt relaxed, there is zero hope of Moana Pacifika competing. So it's ludicrously fucked either way.

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