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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1

    <p>Blues named.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Tuipulotu out, Kaino still out (returning next week possibly), Mayhew out.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>On the good side - Francis is passed fit so Blues name the same backline for the first time this season. Hopefully combos start to gel a bit after some promising signs last week.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Ioane still on the bench and it looks like Ofa T is now covering tighthead on the bench - similar to last week - he did look better at tight head off the bench last week.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'll be happy if the Blues can get a losing bonus point out of this to be honest. Blues defence should keep them close enough for a while but I suspect the Blues problems scoring points will see Chiefs pull away in the second half.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Blues team.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>1 - Prattley</p>
    <p>2 - Parsons</p>
    <p>3 - Faumuina</p>
    <p>4 - Matenga</p>
    <p>5 - Bekhuis</p>
    <p>6 - Edwards</p>
    <p>7 - Gibson</p>
    <p>8 - Luatua</p>
    <p>9 - Hall</p>
    <p>10 - West</p>
    <p>11 - Li</p>
    <p>12 - Francis</p>
    <p>13 - Ranger</p>
    <p>14 - Rieko Ioane</p>
    <p>15 - Visinia</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Bench</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>16 - Q MacDonald</p>
    <p>17 - N Waa</p>
    <p>18 - Ofa T</p>
    <p>19 - Akira Ioane</p>
    <p>20 - Kara Pryor</p>
    <p>21 - Guyton</p>
    <p>22 - McGahan</p>
    <p>23 - Moala</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>EDIT - Jamie Nutbrown is referee - another below par reffing performance is on the cards for a Blues game.</p>

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #2

    <p>I can see the Chiefs targeting Francis on defence ...</p>

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    Canes4life
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    #3

    <p>The Chiefs will give this Blues side a pounding. Tana really needed to inject the likes of Moala and A Ioane into the starting side. I mean can you really see the likes of Francis slicing his way through the Chiefs defence. I don't think so.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The balance of that loose forward trio doesn't look right either. I would of had Luatua on the blind and Akira at 8. It just lacks pace for mine.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Chiefs 13+</p>

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #4

    I'd have expected Moala to at least start on the wing.

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  • DiceD Offline
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    Dice
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    #5

    <p>I'd be happy with a losing bonus point too, but even that would be a tough ask given the Chiefs form at the moment. I hope all the traveling the Chiefs have done so far catches up to them this week, but I just can't see that happening.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If we're to win or be competitive, we have to play a similar game plan to the one we played against the Highlanders.</p>

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Canes4life" data-cid="570070" data-time="1459912200">
    <div>
    <p>The Chiefs will give this Blues side a pounding. Tana really needed to inject the likes of Moala and A Ioane into the starting side. I mean can you really see the likes of Francis slicing his way through the Chiefs defence. I don't think so.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The balance of that loose forward trio doesn't look right either. I would of had Luatua on the blind and Akira at 8. It just lacks pace for mine.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Chiefs 13+</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I disagree on Francis. The Blues have ball runners - Francis isn't there to slice through - he's there as a 2nd pivot to help put these ball runners into space and take the pressure of West as well as communicate and organise defensively - and last weekend was a good start. I'm not convinced by Francis in the long term but based on the squad at the moment I can see why he is there. </p>

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    ploughboy
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    <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">1. Mitchell Graham (17)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">2. Hika Elliot (92)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">3. Atu Moli (3)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">4. Dominic Bird*</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">5. Brodie Retallick (61)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">6. Maama Vaipulu (16)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">7. Sam Cane (71) co-captain</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">8. Michael Leitch (18)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">9. Brad Weber (30)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">10. Aaron Cruden (62) co-captain</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">11. James Lowe (27)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">12. Charlie Ngatai (37)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">13. Anton Lienert-Brown (14)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">14. Shaun Stevenson (2)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">15. Damian McKenzie (22)</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">RESERVES:</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">16. Rhys Marshall (28)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">17. Siate Tokolahi (23)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">18. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi (2)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">19. Taleni Seu (6)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">20. Sam Henwood (1)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (60)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">22. Seta Tamanivalu (12)</span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;">23. Sam McNicol (3)</span></p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    taniwharugby
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    <p>I think if Francis was outside a 10 who was running things better, he might be OK, but West probably isn't pulling the strings well enough.</p>

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  • HigginsH Offline
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    Higgins
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    #9

    <p class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span>The Gallagher Chiefs team to play the Blues is:</span></span></span></p>
    <p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Shaun Stevenson, 13. Anton Lienert-Brown, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 11. James Lowe, 10. Aaron Cruden, 9. Brad Weber, 8. Michael Leitch, 7. Sam Cane, 6. Maama Vaipulu, 5. Brodie Retallick, 4. Dominic Bird, 3. Atu Moli, 2. Hika Elliot, 1. Mitchell Graham.<br>
    RESERVES: 16. Rhys Marshall, 17. Siate Tokolahi, 18. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, 19. Taleni Seu, 20. Sam Henwood, 21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 22. Seta Tamanivalu, 23. Sam McNicol.</span></span></p>

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    SammyC
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    Blues midfield defence was a lot better last week with Francis there.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    <p>The Blues aren't that bad, beat the Landers (who get a heap of love on here) and narrowly lost to the Canes. The Chiefs are on fire but this isn't an easy game (like, say, the Farce at home). They will have to play well to win.</p>

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    Hooroo
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    #12

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Higgins" data-cid="570090" data-time="1459916513">
    <div>
    <p> </p>
    <p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span>The Gallagher Chiefs team to play the Blues is:</span></span></span></p>
    <p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Shaun Stevenson, 13. Anton Lienert-Brown, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 11. James Lowe, 10. Aaron Cruden, 9. Brad Weber, 8. Michael Leitch, 7. Sam Cane, 6. Maama Vaipulu, 5. Brodie Retallick, 4. Dominic Bird, 3. Atu Moli, 2. Hika Elliot, 1. Mitchell Graham.<br>
    RESERVES: 16. Rhys Marshall, 17. Siate Tokolahi, 18. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, 19. Taleni Seu, 20. Sam Henwood, 21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 22. Seta Tamanivalu, 23. Sam McNicol.</span></span></p>
    <p> </p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Oh! Retallick and Bird are back!! So now we have forwards and backs! </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>We Win!</p>

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #13

    <p>I had a feeling these games are always closer than everyone expects, so i had a quick squiz at the results.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Over the last 3 years, where it has been generally accepted that the Blues have been shit, they have played 6 times. The Chiefs are 6-0.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>BUT, the average score is 23-16 (which is the exact score finished at twice).</p>

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    African Monkey
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    <p>I can see us giving the Chiefs more of a run that people think but we'll still go down 33-20 or something like that. Seeing Sam Prattley there is a bit cringeworthy too. He's like the guy who never goes away.</p>

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    Unco
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Higgins" data-cid="570090" data-time="1459916513">
    <div>
    <p> </p>
    <p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span>The Gallagher Chiefs team to play the Blues is:</span></span></span></p>
    <p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Raleway;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Shaun Stevenson, 13. Anton Lienert-Brown, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 11. James Lowe, 10. Aaron Cruden, 9. Brad Weber, 8. Michael Leitch, 7. Sam Cane, 6. Maama Vaipulu, 5. Brodie Retallick, 4. Dominic Bird, 3. Atu Moli, 2. Hika Elliot, 1. Mitchell Graham.<br>
    RESERVES: 16. Rhys Marshall, 17. Siate Tokolahi, 18. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, 19. Taleni Seu, 20. Sam Henwood, 21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 22. Seta Tamanivalu, 23. Sam McNicol.</span></span></p>
    <p> </p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>BBBR, Bird and TKB back, Moli gets a start and Allardice gets a deserved rest. I like.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If Henwood's on the bench, I guess they're planning on giving Cane a rest if it's a blow-out score like the last two ones? Otherwise I don't really see the point putting the fourth choice openside on the bench over Sanders.</p>

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    nzzp
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    #16

    <p>As a blues fan, I have that sense that the Jaws music is playing in the background.... just building up to a shark eating our forward pack</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If we get anything out of this game but injuries I'll be happy.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Fark, if we win, I'll get smashed.  There, I said it.</p>

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    kiwiinmelb
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    #17

    I can remember the days when the Blues used to be strong favourites in these clashes and the Chiefs used to rise to the occasion and make a game of it,<br><br>cant see that happening with the Blues ,<br><br>Im tipping it could get ugly, hope im wrong

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    Wreck Diver
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    <p>BBBR, Bird being back should sure up the Chiefs scrum that was looking under real pressure last week.</p>

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    JayCee
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    #19

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="570158" data-time="1459934991">
    <div>
    <p>I can remember the days when the Blues used to be strong favourites in these clashes and the Chiefs used to rise to the occasion and make a game of it,<br><br>
    cant see that happening with the Blues ,<br><br>
    Im tipping it could get ugly, hope im wrong</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>yep - these clashes use to be our final - shit season, but at least we beat the Blues</p>

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    Crucial
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    #20

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Wreck Diver" data-cid="570162" data-time="1459939459">
    <div>
    <p>BBBR, Bird being back should sure up the Chiefs scrum that was looking under real pressure last week.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>...against a very strong pack and it didn't stop them thrashing the shit out of the opposition everywhere else on the park.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Blues aren't half as bad as some are making them out to be. They are struggling to construct tries sure, and that is hampering them on the scoreboard but they are forcing turnovers, making metres, the lineout is working well.....</p>
    <p>The building blocks are all there and if they manage to put them together they can trouble anyone.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The most telling Blues stat is the amount of tries they are scoring from turnover ball. They aren't transitioning from D to A with any bite. That is a confidence thing as much as anything. They slightly hesitate or look like they place themselves under pressure to do something with the ball.</p>

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