Auckland Rugby 2021
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@gunner said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
Not ideal for Auckland.
But holy fuck I’d love to see Ofa and Akira in Cambridge Blue and don’t think I’d be alone in having that thought.... @taniwharugby @Steven-Harris @kev @justin77 @Machpants @muddyriver?
Not that we’d see them much.
Definitely love to see them in the Cambridge Blue. It does make me wonder what hell is going on in Auckland though to have a potential mass exodus like that!
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@j77 said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@gunner said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
Not ideal for Auckland.
But holy fuck I’d love to see Ofa and Akira in Cambridge Blue and don’t think I’d be alone in having that thought.... @taniwharugby @Steven-Harris @kev @justin77 @Machpants @muddyriver?
Not that we’d see them much.
Definitely love to see them in the Cambridge Blue. It does make me wonder what hell is going on in Auckland though to have a potential mass exodus like that!
Blues demoted their back office to the Auckland back office perhaps?
In years gone by I would have celebrated the fact that Auckland were imploding, but in recent times the new Blues have created a healthy relationship between the provinces, so I actually feel bad for them.
Wow, I actually had to pause and check myself after writing that. Still hate you buggers when it comes to on field rivalry though!
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Johnny Tuivasa-Sheck (brother of) who 'retired' from the NRL in 2019 at 22 years old, is playing rugby this season for the Ponsonby Premiers.
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@gunner yea you don't see them much on the park, but its what these guys can contribute off the park that is where it makes the difference; training, marketing, mentoring etc.
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@taniwharugby good call. It's the administartion side that enables the on field to just be their best.
Crusaders have been best in the game at this; Blues are rising rapidly.
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@nzzp said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@kirwan said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
Kind of doesn’t matter how good a coach is if he forces away all your star players, and next rung below that.
Pretty much have to sack him and move on.
Mark Hammett has entered the chat
Exactly
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@dice the EOY team review was pretty scathing....players (and some management) were pretty unanimous in wanting AI and Tiatia gone. ARU sacked Tiatia but doesn't appear to have been enough to appease the players!
There is so much more to this story. I wouldn't be surprised if more comes out and AI 'resigns'
Sounds like he shouldve done the right thing by the union and left of his own accord. Hes clung on and now the players dont want to be near the place as long as hes still there -
@nogusta quite remarkable turnaround.
2018 was a year of so much hope - that overtime final win at EP was one the best rugby provincial rugby game I've been to, just amazing crowd, fairytale script and seemed to be the start of something special. Not to be it would appear!
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@nzzp said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@nogusta quite remarkable turnaround.
2018 was a year of so much hope - that overtime final win at EP was one the best rugby provincial rugby game I've been to, just amazing crowd, fairytale script and seemed to be the start of something special. Not to be it would appear!
Yeah, was at that game and it was a brilliant crowd, worst weather I’ve ever been in at a sporting event, and we were unstoppable on the comeback after being down by 19.
One of the best finals.
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@nzzp said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@kirwan said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
One of the best finals.
I wanted to go home at half time. My boy continues to remind me of that
I was with my two kids, and I gave them the option to leave as well as we were completely soaked, but they loved it.
Even my wallet was completely drenched.
I took a selfie with them celebrating the win, I was so pumped I was fucking crosseyed.
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@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@dice the EOY team review was pretty scathing....players (and some management) were pretty unanimous in wanting AI and Tiatia gone. ARU sacked Tiatia but doesn't appear to have been enough to appease the players!
There is so much to this story. I wouldn't be surprised if more comes out and AI 'resigns'
Sounds like he shouldve done the right thing by the union and left of his own accord. Hes clung on and now the players dont want to be near the place as long as hes still thereA classic 'lost the changing room'?
I'm really curious as to what happened. Not in a tabloid way, but because there is obviously a big pitfall here that he has waded into (much like Hammett) and probably something that everyone can learn from.
Is he a coach that only connects with a certain personality type? Is he a 'new' coach with ways of working that are different to what players are used to and they don't like it? Has he set boundaries that the players don't like?
Sounds like there was some problems with holding back player payments as well. That will always cause friction as players get torn between the team and family needs. Did the coaching issues get amplified because he didn't support the players in their battle for payment? -
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@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!
Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?
Something more than just that happening here.
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@crucial said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!
Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?
Something more than just that happening here.
Yeah, the record is clearly not the problem. A win, a loss in the semis to the eventual winners and a close loss in a final. Not terrible results.
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@crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.
