Americas Cup
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So this is the faster boat in conditions that suit it coming a clear second?
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No think these conditions are more Luna Rossa then ETNZ.
But really it’s showing you have to win the start
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7 seconds by the end, one more leg and it could have been interesting
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Couple of sloppy gybes was the margin of victory.
That's as close as we've seen to date to a team losing the start but winning the race.
That last upwind leg was fantastic. Proper racing.
So the pundits predict that today was sort of the crossover zone between Prada (light) and TNZ's (heavier winds) suggested areas of strength.
Hasn't really told us much other than it shouldn't be a walk over.
You have to imagine TNZ have more improvement in them than LR.
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@kiwimurph said in Americas Cup:
@snowy said in Americas Cup:
@machpants said in Americas Cup:
Well TNZ lost the start, can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean
They lost the start? They weren't in complete control for sure, but here wasn't a lot in it and they did get over the line ahead with better speed. I'd call that a win.
Race 2? Team NZ lost the start.
Yeah we got crossed races there as I was on a slight delay. Race one to us race two to them at the start.
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@machpants said in Americas Cup:
can we disprove the winning of the start is the winning of the race theory? If no team totally fucks up, I mean
It's not looking very likely which is a shame.
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Went to meet a couple of mates in the CBD for a beer, holy shit has anyone seen the cost of parking in the city these days ?
Anyway I digress, after yarning with some randoms I’m pretty much a yachting expert. Talk about exciting stuff, it’s like Horse racing except good.
If there’s a bandwagon I’m signing up.
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@mn5 said in Americas Cup:
Went to meet a couple of mates in the CBD for a beer, holy shit has anyone seen the cost of parking in the city these days ?
Anyway I digress, after yarning with some randoms I’m pretty much a yachting expert. Talk about exciting stuff, it’s like Horse racing except good.
If there’s a bandwagon I’m signing up.
I was thinking this earlier this afternoon... has any sport ever been better at turning millions of people from completely ignorant into sudden pub-experts so quickly?
Everyone's so fucking quick to jump in to prove that they know what VMG means, and talk about minimising tacks, and how foiling works, with extravagant hand gestures and shit.
Not realising it's all WWF/WWE style “sports entertainment” for grown-ups. Really... sailing faster than the wind... the driving force. Fucking idiot-sheeple. -
@kruse said in Americas Cup:
Really... sailing faster than the wind... the driving force. Fucking idiot-sheeple.
haha we were talking about this (again) today while watching race 1 at work.
I understand the concept of how it works the same way I understand the concept of time travel, it can be possible, but, yeah, nah!
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Can someone who actually knows about this sailing stuff explain why the boat entering the start at a disadvantage doesn’t just go and do their own thing on the other side? Sure the first boat gets give way advantage but you could be steaming at the line full tit on opposite tack and make them do a move to cover.
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@mn5 said in Americas Cup:
Anyway I digress, after yarning with some randoms I’m pretty much a yachting expert.
It's amazing how you get to 2021 and it turns out that everyone got more than 80% in School Cert. Science - or if they didn't they were fucking ripped off!
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@crucial said in Americas Cup:
Can someone who actually knows about this sailing stuff explain why the boat entering the start at a disadvantage doesn’t just go and do their own thing on the other side? Sure the first boat gets give way advantage but you could be steaming at the line full tit on opposite tack and make them do a move to cover.
Not a sailer, but I THINK the wind generally tends to favour one side or other, so both teams want to race on the 'good' side. Position themselves accordingly at start.
But if wind fairly mixed can’t see the boat behind wouldn’t try it.
Just a theory though!
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Rich ponces versus lawyers. Yawn
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@pakman said in Americas Cup:
@crucial said in Americas Cup:
Can someone who actually knows about this sailing stuff explain why the boat entering the start at a disadvantage doesn’t just go and do their own thing on the other side? Sure the first boat gets give way advantage but you could be steaming at the line full tit on opposite tack and make them do a move to cover.
Not a sailer, but I THINK the wind generally tends to favour one side or other, so both teams want to race on the 'good' side. Position themselves accordingly at start.
But if wind fairly mixed can’t see the boat behind wouldn’t try it.
Just a theory though!
They always go to the same side though. I get that you are trying to force the other boat into a position but it rarely happens.
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IIRC, if you include the pre-Christmas racing there were a few instances where the boat not winning the start won the race, however since the challenger series, winning the start has been the winning of the race hasnt it?
