World Test Championship
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@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
@labcat said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
Just proving yet again England aren’t particularly good. Aside from Root and maybe Anderson who from their team would walk into the Black Caps ?
Stokes probably would as well.
No I don’t reckon. He is an all rounder but he’s not World Class in either discipline. In years gone by yes he would have walked in but not with the team we have currently. Our four seamers are all better than he is ( he’s currently the 30th best bowler in the world ) and the only way he’d get in as a batsman ( where he is ranked 11th which surprises me ) is if he magically reinvented himself as an opening partner for Tom Latham.
Stokes would be in a straight shoot out with CDGH if we choose not to play a "spinner" and I'd lean Stokes
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Can we riff about the countback criteria that will rob us again?
Count back of curries consumed over 5 days?
Number of spurious appeals?
Biggest bank account wins?
Fan vote?
Number of shit cricket videos on YouTube?
Number of deceptive/fake titles on YouTube as you type in India vs England test highlights?
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@booboo said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
@labcat said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
Just proving yet again England aren’t particularly good. Aside from Root and maybe Anderson who from their team would walk into the Black Caps ?
Stokes probably would as well.
No I don’t reckon. He is an all rounder but he’s not World Class in either discipline. In years gone by yes he would have walked in but not with the team we have currently. Our four seamers are all better than he is ( he’s currently the 30th best bowler in the world ) and the only way he’d get in as a batsman ( where he is ranked 11th which surprises me ) is if he magically reinvented himself as an opening partner for Tom Latham.
Stokes would be in a straight shoot out with CDGH if we choose not to play a "spinner" and I'd lean Stokes
He would qualify too.
I'd say that Stokes would have been selected for NZ then would still be hanging around because it's difficult to get dropped if the selectors have chosen you for a while. -
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@kruse said in World Test Championship:
@siam said in World Test Championship:
Biggest bank account wins?
I reckon the Lords' Groundsman might be ordering some super-yacht brochures.
Yeah. Will be getting the blast heaters on the pitch and putting a permanent roof over the block.
Edit: Hold that though. It's started https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/icc-world-test-championship-final-to-be-moved-out-of-lords-report-3506237.html
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@crucial said in World Test Championship:
@kruse said in World Test Championship:
@siam said in World Test Championship:
Biggest bank account wins?
I reckon the Lords' Groundsman might be ordering some super-yacht brochures.
Yeah. Will be getting the blast heaters on the pitch and putting a permanent roof over the block.
Edit: Hold that though. It's started https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/icc-world-test-championship-final-to-be-moved-out-of-lords-report-3506237.html
Shit, that guy's gotta be gutted.
Every other groundsman in the country... waiting with baited breath... where's the gravy train roulette wheel going to land?
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@booboo said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
@labcat said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
Just proving yet again England aren’t particularly good. Aside from Root and maybe Anderson who from their team would walk into the Black Caps ?
Stokes probably would as well.
No I don’t reckon. He is an all rounder but he’s not World Class in either discipline. In years gone by yes he would have walked in but not with the team we have currently. Our four seamers are all better than he is ( he’s currently the 30th best bowler in the world ) and the only way he’d get in as a batsman ( where he is ranked 11th which surprises me ) is if he magically reinvented himself as an opening partner for Tom Latham.
Stokes would be in a straight shoot out with CDGH if we choose not to play a "spinner" and I'd lean Stokes
Stokes is currently the third best all rounder in the world but when you consider our very own K Jamieson is 6th ( and bowlers who can bat a bit like Starc and Cummins are in the top 10 ) you realise it’s a bit of a joke. The jury is still VERY out as to Jamiesons batting credentials
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@crucial said in World Test Championship:
@booboo said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
@labcat said in World Test Championship:
@mn5 said in World Test Championship:
Just proving yet again England aren’t particularly good. Aside from Root and maybe Anderson who from their team would walk into the Black Caps ?
Stokes probably would as well.
No I don’t reckon. He is an all rounder but he’s not World Class in either discipline. In years gone by yes he would have walked in but not with the team we have currently. Our four seamers are all better than he is ( he’s currently the 30th best bowler in the world ) and the only way he’d get in as a batsman ( where he is ranked 11th which surprises me ) is if he magically reinvented himself as an opening partner for Tom Latham.
Stokes would be in a straight shoot out with CDGH if we choose not to play a "spinner" and I'd lean Stokes
He would qualify too.
I'd say that Stokes would have been selected for NZ then would still be hanging around because it's difficult to get dropped if the selectors have chosen you for a while.Not if you’re an all rounder. Corey Anderson, Jimmy Neesham, CDGH and Santner ( although he gets more of a chance since apparently he’s a spinner ) have all been and gone in the recent past. Daryl Mitchell is coming off a ton in his last dig but he’s still far from an automatic selection.
CDGH and Stokes average pretty much the same in their respective disciplines funnily enough ( Stokes with the much longer career obviously ) and the Black Caps are hardly struggling without their resident Zimbot.
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@crucial said in World Test Championship:
@bovidae said in World Test Championship:
Southampton was mentioned previously as the alternative venue for the final.
Why? Chalky pitch?
I think it was because Hampshire is relatively covid-free compared to London and up north.
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If we believe that the BCCI runs world cricket.
BCCI president Sourav Ganguly revealed on Monday that the World Test Championship final between India and New Zealand will be held in Southampton in June. The match is scheduled from June 18 to 22.
According to Ganguly, Southampton emerged as a clear favourite because it is one of the two venues - Manchester being the other - with an on-site hotel, an advantage for teams operating in a bio-secure environment during the Covid-19 pandemic. Having on-site hotels meant both venues hosted international series involving West Indies, Pakistan, Ireland and Australia in the summer of 2020. -
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@canefan said in World Test Championship:
@bovidae how does the pitch at Southampton traditionally play?
As @Crucial says previously, Moeen Ali has two 5-wkt bags at the Rose Bowl. But so does Anderson, while Holder and Gabriel got 5+ wickets in an inning each when the WI won last year.
I'd say there is something for everyone in the pitch.
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@bovidae said in World Test Championship:
@canefan said in World Test Championship:
@bovidae how does the pitch at Southampton traditionally play?
As @Crucial says previously, Moeen Ali has two 5-wkt bags at the Rose Bowl. But so does Anderson, while Holder and Gabriel got 5+ wickets in an inning each when the WI won last year.
I'd say there is something for everyone in the pitch.
Indias spinning all rounders ( potentially THREE at last count ) are absolutely terrifying compared to anything we can muster. Santner doesn’t quite measure up to Ashwin, Jadeja or Axar Patel.
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@dan54 g'day mate, hope you are well?
I would have thought that a June test at Lords would suit us down to the ground tbh. we should be very confident going into that with the conditions it will provide. In London, typically May has good weather for 1-2 weeks and everything thinks 'bring it on' and it then is quite shitty weather with quite a bit of rain.
I also think having it at Lords will inspire NZ after our last final there. case of unfinished business at that same ground. Lords wont be full I wouldn't have thought. If so, I would expect a huge Indian contingent to attend.
If it is a reduced or no crowd, then that would be another advantage to us, as it would be just like playing a test match in NZ
Covid is on the retreat in London, so I expect by June that the match will be at Lords. They will do all they can to stage it at Lords Imo.
Southampton would be a bit drier wicket. I played Southern league cricket (next step up is county level) in the 90's in Hampshire and the wickets were incredibly good for batting. it would be a disadvantage for us if it was shifted down there.
B Dickey and I will be trying to get tickets for Lords (fingers crossed)
hope you are well mate and enjoying NZ life again -
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