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    My F-I-L played for Middlesex through all the grades to 2ndXI before WWII (played with Compton and a host of other greats) always rated Trueman but said he wasn't as good for England as Typhoon Tyson.

    His all time favourite bowler though was Hadlee who he said had it all

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    @dogmeat said in Other Cricket:

    My F-I-L played for Middlesex through all the grades to 2ndXI before WWII (played with Compton and a host of other greats) always rated Trueman but said he wasn't as good for England as Typhoon Tyson.

    His all time favourite bowler though was Hadlee who he said had it all

    I wonder how quick Paddle was before he shortened the run up ?

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    @MN5 My memory is he tried to be Thomo but was always a yard or two down on pace compared to the really quick guys.

    In the mid 70's they did a sort of celebrity bowl off to determine who was the fastest. Paddles didn't really feature.

    I don't think he really lost much pace when he shortened his run up but gained all the control that made him some fearsome.

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    @dogmeat said in Other Cricket:

    @MN5 My memory is he tried to be Thomo but was always a yard or two down on pace compared to the really quick guys.

    In the mid 70's they did a sort of celebrity bowl off to determine who was the fastest. Paddles didn't really feature.

    I don't think he really lost much pace when he shortened his run up but gained all the control that made him some fearsome.

    Some Aussie players of the 70's reckon Thommo hit 180km at his best which I'm fairly sure is bullshit.

    He was fucken quick though. Probably still the fastest that's ever lived. That alone was what made him dangerous, when he lost that pace he was pretty bog standard unlike Paddles.

    Out of the West Indians they reckon Holding was absolute lightning and Marshall too of course.

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    @dogmeat said in Other Cricket:

    @MN5 My memory is he tried to be Thomo but was always a yard or two down on pace compared to the really quick guys.

    In the mid 70's they did a sort of celebrity bowl off to determine who was the fastest. Paddles didn't really feature.

    I don't think he really lost much pace when he shortened his run up but gained all the control that made him some fearsome.

    I remember that. They did a couple of them. It was speed and accuracy Paddles did alright in the the latter I think.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

    @dogmeat said in Other Cricket:

    My F-I-L played for Middlesex through all the grades to 2ndXI before WWII (played with Compton and a host of other greats) always rated Trueman but said he wasn't as good for England as Typhoon Tyson.

    His all time favourite bowler though was Hadlee who he said had it all

    I wonder how quick Paddle was before he shortened the run up ?

    130s with the occasional faster ball in the low 140s I think. In a documentary/TV special about Hadlee, Dickie Bird said he was the greatest fast bowler of all time.

    Allan Donald's take on Hadlee - particularly interesting point about Hadlee bowling in the nets like it was test cricket, including all the prep on his own team. Excellent prep for the batsmen to have him work out their weaknesses in training rather than find out against the other team.

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    There was a big gulf between how good Trueman was and how good Trueman thought Trueman was. He would have actually taken even more test wickets if he didn't keep on being dropped early on - basically for being a northern oik.

    Tyson was Bond to Trueman's Southee - devastating but for a short time only. Statham was mainly Trueman's bowling partner.

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    I've got a cricket book by Michael Parkinson, in which he tells several Trueman stories that Fred denied, so he asked Fred to tell him a strange one that was true.

    According to Fred, he was invited to India for their 50th Jubilee celebrations and as part of those Fred was travelling by train miles from anywhere across India, when they stopped at a tiny station and Fred needed to use the toilet. The stationmaster was delighted at this request and insisted on escorting Fred into the station buildings into a small room where, where he drew back a curtain to unveil a Victorian chamber pot with F.S. Trueman written on the side.

    Parkinson raises all the obvious questions about how the stationmaster ever got the idea that Fred would ever arrive at his station and need to use toilets.....but, apparently Fred swore it was true.

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    @Chris-B said in Other Cricket:

    I've got a cricket book by Michael Parkinson, in which he tells several Trueman stories that Fred denied, so he asked Fred to tell him a strange one that was true.

    According to Fred, he was invited to India for their 50th Jubilee celebrations and as part of those Fred was travelling by train miles from anywhere across India, when they stopped at a tiny station and Fred needed to use the toilet. The stationmaster was delighted at this request and insisted on escorting Fred into the station buildings into a small room where, where he drew back a curtain to unveil a Victorian chamber pot with F.S. Trueman written on the side.

    Parkinson raises all the obvious questions about how the stationmaster ever got the idea that Fred would ever arrive at his station and need to use toilets.....but, apparently Fred swore it was true.

    This seems to be an extremely long winded story about an English pace bowler having a piss in India.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

    only two tests ? 
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    pffft hahaha what the fuck?

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    @mariner4life reminds me of Paul Adams. How you bowl with your head facing the wrong way I have no idea

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    Poms v Border Gavaskar trophy holders in Chennai, first test

    Really good first day for England. 263 for 3. Joe Root an impressive ton in his 100th test. Sibley 87

    India using ishant and bumrah as the only 2 seamers.

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    Not much help in the pitch, and the A Team bowlers for India have looked toothless. England 416/4 and India has burnt through their reviews in increasing hopefulness/desperation...

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    @Donsteppa terrible pitch.

    Last night they were showing close ups of the ball at about 50 overs old. Never mind the Aussies and their sandpaper, it looked as though someone had a go at it with the wire brush. The seam was pretty much worn down to nothing.

    Can’t see this being anything other than a draw.

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    Who does Root think he is.....Kane Williamson ?

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    Pant batting the house down. Seeing them like beach balls.

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    In other news the Windies have chased down a big 4th innings total to beat Bangladesh. Great effort, new boy Kyle Mayers with a double of 40 and 210 not out to give him a test average of 250.

    Fucken suck on that Don Bradman, more than double your "efforts".

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    Who does this Kyle think he is, Jamieson?

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    Interesting period of the Poms v India game

    England with a good lead but want to force the pace before declaring late on day 4

    India probably have everyone a little spooked with their chasing ability. England will probably be extra cautious on the declaration

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