Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 she doesn't have to leave the room.
Just leave the aircon off and accept no food delivery?
Sounds fun
The odds of getting it from food are tiny. Not a good time of year for no air con, but by April or so, that should be fine.
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@voodoo That sounds like what my brother described. I don't think the lift is an issue. They sanitise before and after using the lift. You cannot realistically expect the entire lift to be sanitised every time it is used.
This seems like a significant improvement on how it was a few months ago and a reasonable compromise between concern for public health and trying to make the experience as comfortable as possible.
My position is that the border will always leak. It is inevitable which is why fucktards should use the tracing app all the time not go into a mindless panic when we get a case.
All the media complaints about long queues at testing stations triggers me. Do you have symptoms? No. Were you at one of the named premises around the time the confirmed case was there? No. Then why the fuck are you clogging the system possibly preventing someone who has caught COVID from getting tested. Go. Fuck off and buy toilet rolls from Countdown. Retards!!
Given NZ MIQ has proven no more leaky that the Oz version, which has much more stringent controls, I am cautiously OK with the process but am watching the results of the Pillman investigation closely
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
All the media complaints about long queues at testing stations triggers me. Do you have symptoms? No. Were you at one of the named premises around the time the confirmed case was there? No. Then why the fuck are you clogging the system possibly preventing someone who has caught COVID from getting tested. Go. Fuck off and buy toilet rolls from Countdown. Retards!!
Yup!!
Not to mention then moaning about the delay, get a bit of perspective people, whats going on in the rest of the world?
Sure it aint perfect, but c'mon!!
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just seen a post on FB from one of the shops the lady visited, saying all thier staff have tested negative apart from one who was tested later so still waiting on result.
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@dogmeat my point about about the lift is that you're now relying on people to sanitise before/after. The whole premise behind MIQ is that we don't trust ppl to self-isolate at home isn't it? So why do we lock them in a hotel but then allow them to move around? Its just a weak point that doesn't need to exist.
On the testing stations, we have the opposite right now in NSW - test numbers are way down and the Gov pleads with us every day to go get tested. Its bloody annoying! We have all been tested, and none of us are sick - why the hell would we go to what is probably the most likely place to catch the bloody thing for another test!
@Godder sure, catching something from food handling might be a low %. But it ain't zero. My wife caught a cold in her MIQ stay here in Sydney - 6 months of Covid-free in NZ, only to get sick in the bloody hotel here! Only way she could have caught it is through aircon or food delivery because she wasn't even allowed out to exercise! That lurgy cost her an extra swab up the brain on Day 8 or so 😬
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Pretty sure these 'close contacts' are people in some of the shops she went to who served her.
Covid Response Minister Chris Hipkins has shared some "pretty encouraging news" this morning.
He's given an update online saying that 14 of the close contacts of the Northland community case have tested negative.
The results of three more close contacts are still pending.
This comes after Hipkins saying yesterday, that two close contacts of the woman's - her husband and hairdresser - returned negative tests.
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@Donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
What I’m curious about but definitely not complaining about; she has the South African version which is apparently more infectious, after leaving an MIQ stay, but close contacts are all testing negative. Unexpectedly good news at this stage?
How close did she have to get to contract it, and where was hubby???
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@canefan supposedly in the car with her on her travels.
Plus her hairdresser as well when she had a hair cut.
I saw a comment online that her symptoms were more fevers and shakes than coughing, whihc reduces the likely spread.
But I think it does seem promising that a contact as close as the husband has tested negative.
edit: a guy I know who was at the cafe she was at immediately after she left has tested negative
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So no new community cases today, hope it continues..
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo That sounds like what my brother described. I don't think the lift is an issue. They sanitise before and after using the lift. You cannot realistically expect the entire lift to be sanitised every time it is used.
This seems like a significant improvement on how it was a few months ago and a reasonable compromise between concern for public health and trying to make the experience as comfortable as possible.
My position is that the border will always leak. It is inevitable which is why fucktards should use the tracing app all the time not go into a mindless panic when we get a case.
> All the media complaints about long queues at testing stations triggers me. Do you have symptoms? No. Were you at one of the named premises around the time the confirmed case was there? No. Then why the fuck are you clogging the system possibly preventing someone who has caught COVID from getting tested. Go. Fuck off and buy toilet rolls from Countdown. Retards!!
Given NZ MIQ has proven no more leaky that the Oz version, which has much more stringent controls, I am cautiously OK with the process but am watching the results of the Pillman investigation closely
Some of the posts in the GOM thread ain’t got shit on this.....I love it !!!!
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@canefan But on the other hand, I've come up to Auckland today to meet with a guy who overnight stated feeling a bit out of sorts and his boss has forbidden him to come into the office until he has had a test. Theres no reason to think he has been infected but what's he supposed to do if his boss tells him it's mandatory?
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@JC In that circumstance, if the employee is ready, willing and able to return, the best the employer can demand is a medical certificate of fitness to return to work at the employer's expense. If they specifically demand a covid test without a medical professional's backing (health line counts), the employer gets to pay the employee to stay home.
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@JC not saying it's the case here, but I do wonder if some people get a bit of a placebo-like situation, hearing about this the anxiety and other feelings makes them start suffering symptoms they know are associated.
We had one lady at work who's step-son works at one of the locations and she has been working form home today and yesterday (although was in all last week...)
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@Bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Given this lady used the app, has anyone received an alert yet?
To answer my own question, there is a story in the Waikato Times about a family who were visiting Northland and were in the Kauri Museum at the same time as the covid-positive woman was. The family received an alert on Sunday afternoon as they were also using the Covid tracer app during their holiday. I would suggest that all those people complaining that the list of places she visited wasn't quickly available weren't using the app themselves.
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@Bovidae MOH didnt release the app location data on thier website until after 9pm that night, but I expect/hope those who had scanned were alerted well before that, although, looking over the list of her visits and times, I think there were some manual entries, which probably slowed some of the automation?
Unsure why when you enter a location manually it doesnt come up with a drop down of the shops/business you were at though (e.g start typing Farmers and it comes up with Farmers stores to select which one you were at
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@Godder True. You have to feel for employers too though. IIRC a while back in the second Auckland lockdown some shop owner got the rubber hose for apparently insisting that one of their workers came in when it turned out she was actually infected. Who needs that kind of publicity.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Bovidae MOH didnt release the app location data on thier website until after 9pm that night, but I expect/hope those who had scanned were alerted well before that, although, looking over the list of her visits and times, I think there were some manual entries, which probably slowed some of the automation?
Unsure why when you enter a location manually it doesnt come up with a drop down of the shops/business you were at though (e.g start typing Farmers and it comes up with Farmers stores to select which one you were at
But then Mrs JC might be surprised when I start typing and the Blue Oyster Bar pops up. Who needs that kind of unpleasantness?