Magpies 2021
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@Stargazer Well I think we can count out the Hurricanes as an option given we have that world famous (in Wellington anyway) superstar JGB with in a seemingly invinceable hold on the starting position.
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@Stargazer Love isn't the problem. Hickey is.
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@KiwiMurph I think Hickey is mostly a problem for McClutchie. Love is more a problem for younger guys like Smiler-Ah Kiong.
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Anyway, the player-drain from Hawke's Bay to the bigger provinces - or provinces with a university - is extremely frustrating.
Players like Zarn Sullivan, Tyrone Thompson, and now possibly Smiler-Ah Kiong, are a big loss. Julian Goerke, if he ends up playing for Manawatu. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few recent examples.
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@Stargazer Don't forget Aidan Morgan. He went down to Welly at the same time as Love, and was probably more highly rated.
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@Bovidae Yeah, he was the player who was outplayed by Smiler-Ah Kiong in the 2019 Top Four Final. Yet, the Canes have probably been chasing him (resulting in the Wellington signing) instead of a player from their own catchment, who may now go to the Chiefs catchment ....
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@Stargazer given Reihana is heading back to Northland next season, Waikato will be looking for a replacement, so makes sense.
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@taniwharugby Yeah, from Waikato's point of view it does (and I'm happy for Northland). But it sucks big time for us if the Smiler-Ah Kiong rumour is true ....
I can't even say that Waikato should give Bailyn Sullivan back in return, because Bailyn has been a bit disappointing the last few years and we don't really need him.
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@Stargazer said in Magpies 2021:
@Bovidae Nope. That's not an excuse for poaching from a small province. Anyway, you may get Poihipi back, if he has indeed been signed by the Chiefs?
I agree, the real reason to poach is to strengthen your team.
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@Stargazer not saying its great, just Waikato have a spade now, so makes sense they would be shopping.
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@taniwharugby Where are they getting their money from as it was only a few years back that were were about to turfed out of Rugby Park for non payment of rent?
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@Stargazer Herman put up a post farewelling him at the airport.
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@Stargazer said in Magpies 2021:
@Bovidae Nope. That's not an excuse for poaching from a small province. Anyway, you may get Poihipi back, if he has indeed been signed by the Chiefs?
What I meant is that player movement often has a flow-on effect from their own player(s) moving to another province. Coaches/CEOs will always look to fill a gap in their squad, and it doesn't really matter where they get them from, or the incentives used to sign them.
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@Stargazer Poihipi definitely leaving chch. Asked him if he was still here the other day. I’ll find out where he’s going
