European Club Rugby

[Hooroo]

@Machpants said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo he leaned over the hoardings, and touched it. Was not going too be hit buy it, just a dick move

Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I would do it too. I wouldn't stop him from being able to grab the ball though.

[Tim]

@Hooroo said in NH club rugby:

What actually happened?

@Machpants described it accurately.

[KiwiMurph]

World Rugby should bring in a rule to clear it up.

[Machpants]

@Hooroo said in NH club rugby:

@Machpants said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo he leaned over the hoardings, and touched it. Was not going too be hit buy it, just a dick move

Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I would do it too. I wouldn't stop him from being able to grab the ball though.

Once he touched it that was the same as grabbing the ball, can't do a quick throw. Is just cheating, the need to go full soccer and put those fluffybunnies in an area until let out

[Hooroo]

@Machpants said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo said in NH club rugby:

@Machpants said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo he leaned over the hoardings, and touched it. Was not going too be hit buy it, just a dick move

Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I would do it too. I wouldn't stop him from being able to grab the ball though.

Once he touched it that was the same as grabbing the ball, can't do a quick throw. Is just cheating, the need to go full soccer and put those fluffybunnies in an area until let out

But is it cheating? That was my original question. What are the rules around this? If the ball is heading to the bench are the bench to evacuate the area?

[taniwharugby]

@Hooroo if he hadn't reached for it, the other guy might have got it first and been able uo do a quick throw in, either way, a player who ys not 1 of the 30 on the park has deliberately touched the ball to affect play.

[Hooroo]

@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo if he hadn't reached for it, the other guy might have got it first and been able uo do a quick throw in, either way, a player who ys not 1 of the 30 on the park has deliberately touched the ball to affect play.

Yeah I get that, like a if a ball boy touches it, it can't be used for a quick throw.

I just don't have a problem with it if there is no rule around it.

[taniwharugby]

@Hooroo think ball boys are different as that's thier role, but yea unsure what the exact rules are.

[Hooroo]

@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo think ball boys are different as that's thier role, but yea unsure what the exact rules are.

Not for quick throws they aren't. If they touch it, it can't be used for a quick throw.

[taniwharugby]

@Hooroo no i mean a ball boy is there to retrieve the ball, I am sure they are told about when they can and cannot touch it , a reserve water carrier, physio should have no business touching it.

[Hooroo]

@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo no i mean a ball boy is there to retrieve the ball, I am sure they are told about when they can and cannot touch it , a reserve water carrier, physio should have no business touching it.

but cool for the oppo bench to if they wish?

[taniwharugby]

@Hooroo do they not count as reserves?

[Hooroo]

@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo do they not count as reserves?

That's what I'm asking? Is there any rule around it?

[taniwharugby]

@Hooroo no idea, which was what I posted with the clip saying WR needs to do something

[Hooroo]

@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:

@Hooroo no idea, which was what I posted with the clip saying WR needs to do something

From some of the over-reaction on here, I first thought someone died or even cheated but I can't tell if that has happened

[taniwharugby]

@Hooroo well a player can get penalised for taking the ball and not giving to the opposition the opportunity for a quick play, so I'd like to think someone not actually playing has even less right to touch it

[Duluth]

There was a game a few years ago where there was two incidents in one match. A staff member did it first and got a warning.
An injured player did it the second time and got a red card

The injured player part is interesting because he's not an active player

I had a skim through the rugbyrefs forum and it seems all the ref can do is remove the staff from the playing area for the cheating.
There was debate over if they could also penalise the team.

In this weekends incident the staff member was removed from the playing area. However the penalty (and YC) went against the player for the reaction

[taniwharugby]

@Duluth said in NH club rugby:

However the penalty (and YC) went against the player for the reaction

I can understand that, happens on field if you retaliate too.

[Bovidae]

The laws around a quick lineout throw seem to only relate to the players' actions, not those people outside the field of play. I agree with @KiwiMurph that WR should clarify that a team's reserve players and support staff are also included in this category.

[Hooroo]

@Duluth said in NH club rugby:

There was a game a few years ago where there was two incidents in one match. A staff member did it first and got a warning.
An injured player did it the second time and got a red card

The injured player part is interesting because he's not an active player

I had a skim through the rugbyrefs forum and it seems all the ref can do is remove the staff from the playing area for the cheating.
There was debate over if they could also penalise the team.

In this weekends incident the staff member was removed from the playing area. However the penalty (and YC) went against the player for the reaction

So it is fair dinkum cheating then if the refs can do that.