Exodus 2016
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<p>Charles Piutau</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">I'll see how I feel at the end of my Ulster contract but the plan is to go back to New Zealand and have another crack at the All Blacks," he said.</span></p>
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<p>Fuck you Charles. Take your cake and fuck off. Where are you this year when our right wings are all broken? oh, lining your pockets. </p>
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<p>You were my boy Charles, but you burned me brah, we're done. </p>
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<p>Seriously, this doesn't surprise any one. I hope he's had a chat to Luke McAlister though. </p> -
There's no way he's going to come back in another two years playing the sort of rugby that will get him into the All Blacks.
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<p>There's no way he's going to come back in another two years playing the sort of rugby that will get him into the All Blacks.</p>
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<p>He is still reasonably young so I wouldn't write him off. The thing is that we always seem to come up with replacements for those that leave.</p>
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<p>Fuck you Charles. Take your cake and fuck off. Where are you this year when our right wings are all broken? oh, lining your pockets. </p>
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<p>You were my boy Charles, but you burned me brah, we're done. </p>
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<p>Seriously, this doesn't surprise any one. I hope he's had a chat to Luke McAlister though. </p>
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<p>Hey these guys have a limited shelf life and financial security is important so I understand him taking the money. He could be done physically in 3 years and what will he fall back on?</p> -
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<p>He is still reasonably young so I wouldn't write him off. The thing is that we always seem to come up with replacements for those that leave.</p>
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<p>Is it that or do they just stop developing as players when they come over here? I suspect its a little of both to be honest. </p> -
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<p>Is it that or do they just stop developing as players when they come over here? I suspect its a little of both to be honest. </p>
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<p>They all seem to come back looking to run into contact & playing heads down rugby.</p>
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<p>If you watch Luke at Sale he was used over & over as a crash ball runner - with a lot of success. But then he came back & all he seemed to have was the crash ball into contact. Which in NZ rugby is the "well, there's nothing on so I'll do this" option, not the "this is my first option every time" thing it is in a lot of UK sides.</p>
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<p>In contrast you had guys like Nonu who certainly could run that ball, but only if the gaps weren't on. Its like 3 years up North they stop seeing space. Part of it might be you run constantly into space in the UK & then get caught the chances of your 9 & your 3 fat slow loosies getting to you in time to recycle are zero. It becomes self fufilling, players run into contact because thats where the support is, and 6's get picked as opensides because a big grunter is more useful over 80 mninutes than a fast link man / poacher, because the game is a bit tighter.</p> -
I hate this thread. Each time someone posts I open it with trepidation wondering which player is moving overseas...<br><br>
If a RWC, the Olympics and the Lions wasn't enough of an incentive for Charles I'm not convinced he leaves £££ in NI to come back to a Super Rugby contract and a possible AB jersey. -
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<p>I hate this thread. Each time someone posts I open it with trepidation wondering which player is moving overseas...<br><br>
If a RWC, the Olympics and the Lions wasn't enough of an incentive for Charles I'm not convinced he leaves £££ in NI to come back to a Super Rugby contract and a possible AB jersey.</p>
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<p>he will be close to 3 million up, come back to NZ on to 200k minimum. nothing to lose, give it 2 years. go back and earn few more million if he doesnt make it. i think he will come back</p> -
<p>According to this site</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/wages'>http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/wages</a></p>
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<p>the average wage in NZ at December 2015 was $29.41 an hour = $61,172.28 annually before tax</p>
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<p>According to this site</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/wages'>http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/wages</a></p>
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<p>the average wage in NZ at December 2015 was $29.41 an hour = $61,172.28 annually before tax</p>
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<p>hes not going to come back and work a trade lol</p> -
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<p>According to this site</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/wages'>http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/wages</a></p>
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<p>the average wage in NZ at December 2015 was $29.41 an hour = $61,172.28 annually before tax</p>
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<p>Of course.</p>
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<p>As we all know, $200,000 a year is very good by NZ standards, but in global rugby is below average.</p>
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<p>NZ $200,000 = 120,000 EUR</p>
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<p>NZ $200,000 = 95,000 GBP</p> -
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I hate this thread. Each time someone posts I open it with trepidation wondering which player is moving overseas...<br><br>
If a RWC, the Olympics and the Lions wasn't enough of an incentive for Charles I'm not convinced he leaves £££ in NI to come back to a Super Rugby contract and a possible AB jersey.</p></blockquote>
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<p>We (Cardiff) have been linked with Willis Halaholo. What's he like? We need a ball carrier in midfield.</p>
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<p>Rey Lee-Lo has done Ok this season, but Jarrad Hoeata has been a disappointment during his 2 years with us.</p> -
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Rey Lee-Lo has done Ok this season, but Jarrad Hoeata has been a disappointment during his 2 years with us.</p></blockquote>
A good player but never had much opportunity at super rugby level. About on a par with rey lee-Lo I would say<br><br><br>
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<p>We (Cardiff) have been linked with Willis Halaholo. What's he like? We need a ball carrier in midfield.</p>
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<p>Rey Lee-Lo has done Ok this season, but Jarrad Hoeata has been a disappointment during his 2 years with us.</p>
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<p>He is certainly a ball carrier, that's for sure, sometimes to the detriment of supporting players. </p> -
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<p>We (Cardiff) have been linked with Willis Halaholo. What's he like? We need a ball carrier in midfield.</p>
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Halaholo is mostly unproven but has more upside than Lee-lo.</p></blockquote>
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He is also uncapped, which has a real value with the overseas player restrictions for Welsh Teams.<br><br>
Lee-Lo has been good with ball in hand but indisciplined in defence. -
<p><strong>Carl Axtens</strong> linked with a move to french club Toulouse</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/stade-toulousain-le-neo-zelandais-axtens-en-joker-medical-961742.html'>http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/stade-toulousain-le-neo-zelandais-axtens-en-joker-medical-961742.html</a></p>
