Americas Cup
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@Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
something else was going on though as I thought we were always pointing higher and with comparable speed...
I think they were playing with things. Good experience. So many variables, especially when you are behind. Turbulent air from being covered, wind shifts, pressure, etc. Not easy sailing in there. They even mentioned how tough it was around the Tamaki yacht club which amused me. I sailed P class there as a kid, half the fleet of beginners had to be towed back to shore. It was a nightmare. Completely unstable wind direction, but mostly offshore, dead calm at times with an outgoing tide and nowhere to aim for other than the club boat ramp itself. Not easy to go and get yourself onto the beach a bit further down as rule, pretty rocky, seawalls, etc.
Anyway chasing the game in a match race with the other boat all over you is tough.
@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
These boats are an engineering marvel.
Whoever came up the concept should get a medal. Best of both worlds, foiling cat speeds plus some, with proper match racing. Sailors on a knife edge to get it right.
Interesting commentary too. Lester said that basically below the water line was electrically operated, above was hydraulic with accumulators and the jib was a manual winch. I thought that it would be all hydraulic. Anyone know where the electric power is coming from? That just seemed weird, lifting the foils must be hydraulic...
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@dogmeat I don't know what im saying that makes people think im writing them off, firmly in the position of we were trying to do more, test stuff, get separation as you say etc, all valuable training
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@Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
@dogmeat I don't know what im saying that makes people think im writing them off, firmly in the position of we were trying to do more, test stuff, get separation as you say etc, all valuable training
I don't think that anyone has written anyone off yet, nor that you said so.
Ainslie is a great sailor and they have huge budget so even the Brits are likely to be competitive very soon. We have them twice today so hopefully they have fixed the reliability issue. The speed one seems unlikely (for today).
This little regatta is testing and training for everyone under match conditions so there will be quite a lot of pissing about technically and with skills for the guys on board.
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That was a good race!
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TNZ got air
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@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
TNZ got air
Both of these races have demonstrated the small margins which could lead to a catastrophic error.
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@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
@Hooroo said in Americas Cup:
What is the siren sounding noise when they go on board?
hydraulics. Would be super annoyin gafter a while I suspect
Yeah bizarre. I wonder why they are so noisy? Tractor Hydraulics are heaps quieter
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@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them
As I understand it, each team is allowed 3 sets of foils so they most likely have a light, mid, heavy air set to fit into the 6 to 21 knot range. I'm guessing about that and haven't found any info.
ETNZ may be going for a smaller / heavier air set than are ideal for the conditions to get reduced drag and better overall boat speed. The drawback would be less lift making slower speed start manoeuvres more difficult and falling off the foils more likely, as well as getting back up on them requiring more time, pointing lower, etc.
That is all supposition on my part but from memory the cats had different foils for different wind speeds.
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Is Ainslie just a bit shit?
When these boats are going flat out, thier top speeds look comparable, yet Ainslie seems to be making alot of errors
Team UK seem to have a different main-sail mechanism track too, looks a bit more clunky than the others?
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TNZ looks to have better speed but Barker seems to be schooling Burling
