Best Test XI - General chat
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@dogmeat said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@nzzp Bond's career was (sadly) a few peak seasons.
Oh, I know - but he'd be challenging for our best XI either, based on his body of work. Destroying THAT Australian team puts you on the top shelf below Paddles
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@nzzp said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner cheers fella,
key questions in these for me are always:
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are we picking the best XI players, or the best team? Combinations do matter (openers; left/right variation in bowlers, for instance) and could tip the balance of tight selections
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is this 'whole career' or 'peak few seasons'? Asking because Bond, y'know...
It’s the best players first, team balance second.
The final voting will come down to a bit of personal preference with team balance, for instance
the spinner/no spinner scenario.That probably doesn’t help much 🤣
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@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@nzzp said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner cheers fella,
key questions in these for me are always:
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are we picking the best XI players, or the best team? Combinations do matter (openers; left/right variation in bowlers, for instance) and could tip the balance of tight selections
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is this 'whole career' or 'peak few seasons'? Asking because Bond, y'know...
It’s the best players first, team balance second.
The final voting will come down to a bit of personal preference with team balance, for instance
the spinner/no spinner scenario.That probably doesn’t help much 🤣
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@nzzp said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner cheers fella,
key questions in these for me are always:
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are we picking the best XI players, or the best team? Combinations do matter (openers; left/right variation in bowlers, for instance) and could tip the balance of tight selections
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is this 'whole career' or 'peak few seasons'? Asking because Bond, y'know...
It’s the best players first, team balance second.
The final voting will come down to a bit of personal preference with team balance, for instance
the spinner/no spinner scenario.That probably doesn’t help much 🤣
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
I hear ya.
From memory, last time I started off including an allrounder, but pretty much got crucified so we did away with it.
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@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@nzzp said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner cheers fella,
key questions in these for me are always:
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are we picking the best XI players, or the best team? Combinations do matter (openers; left/right variation in bowlers, for instance) and could tip the balance of tight selections
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is this 'whole career' or 'peak few seasons'? Asking because Bond, y'know...
It’s the best players first, team balance second.
The final voting will come down to a bit of personal preference with team balance, for instance
the spinner/no spinner scenario.That probably doesn’t help much 🤣
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
I hear ya.
From memory, last time I started off including an allrounder, but pretty much got crucified so we did away with it.
You can’t please everyone on the fern
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@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@nzzp said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner cheers fella,
key questions in these for me are always:
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are we picking the best XI players, or the best team? Combinations do matter (openers; left/right variation in bowlers, for instance) and could tip the balance of tight selections
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is this 'whole career' or 'peak few seasons'? Asking because Bond, y'know...
It’s the best players first, team balance second.
The final voting will come down to a bit of personal preference with team balance, for instance
the spinner/no spinner scenario.That probably doesn’t help much 🤣
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
I hear ya.
From memory, last time I started off including an allrounder, but pretty much got crucified so we did away with it.
I can’t fathom this. You have one of THE best all rounders of all time. Pick him as an all rounder and base your balance around that.
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@Catogrande said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@nzzp said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@Gunner cheers fella,
key questions in these for me are always:
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are we picking the best XI players, or the best team? Combinations do matter (openers; left/right variation in bowlers, for instance) and could tip the balance of tight selections
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is this 'whole career' or 'peak few seasons'? Asking because Bond, y'know...
It’s the best players first, team balance second.
The final voting will come down to a bit of personal preference with team balance, for instance
the spinner/no spinner scenario.That probably doesn’t help much 🤣
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
I hear ya.
From memory, last time I started off including an allrounder, but pretty much got crucified so we did away with it.
I can’t fathom this. You have one of THE best all rounders of all time. Pick him as an all rounder and base your balance around that.
I think we need all rounders as options ( although Paddles and Dan are obviously best seamer and spinner respectively )
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@sparky said in Best Test XI - General chat:
Clarrie Grimmett and Ben Stokes, two of the greatest Cricketers of All Time. Both were born in New Zealand but played for other Test sides. Are they eligible for your team?
If Cairns can't make it as a batter or bowler alone then this guy is no fucken chance.
He's also a ranga who plays for England.
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@Catogrande @MN5 maybe we include an allrounder category in the nominations, then it’s left up to the individual how they balance their team when voting?
Seems fair...
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@dogmeat said in Best Test XI - General chat:
Hadlee's the all rounder. @MN5 has wood for Cairns and wants to update our bits and pieces team of the early 90's by including more
fuck yes, i'm making it like our old ODI teams where no one averaged more than 35 with the bat, but damn ear everyone could bowl
that's real NZ cricket.
And to ram home my point, those teams won exactly as many world cups as our really good team we have now, with real batsmen and real bowlers and shit.
And they are playing in teal
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also, do we really need the nominations threads? This isn't like the ABs, we only have a couple of guys in the conversation really.
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - General chat:
also, do we really need the nominations threads? This isn't like the ABs, we only have a couple of guys in the conversation really.
Yeah off the top of my head I think we have about six guys who walk in.
No I don’t include Cairns in this list before you have a go....
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@dogmeat said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@MN5 I reckon 3,4,5 and Hadlee are locked in. Everyone else is debatable even though it'll probably be pretty conclusive for most positions once voting starts.
I agree but I’d add Vettori. I also see the keeper role being between McCullum and Watling and no one else.
Latham has thrown the cat amongst the pigeons....some tough choices there.
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@dogmeat said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@MN5 I reckon 3,4,5 and Hadlee are locked in. Everyone else is debatable even though it'll probably be pretty conclusive for most positions once voting starts.
agree, but what i am saying is, there are maybe two options for each of the "not locked in" position, and we know who they are
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
I agree but I’d add Vettori. I also see the keeper role being between McCullum and Watling and no one else.
If we decide to have a spinner. Plus others have gone in to bat for the Fat Commentator
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - General chat:
agree, but what i am saying is, there are maybe two options for each of the "not locked in" position, and we know who they are
Pretty much what I was saying as well. Openers 2/3 possibly 4 Bowlers 4/6 WK 1 /3 . 4 at a pinch
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
Crowe and Williamson are both going to make it and could bowl as effectively or moreso than those two.
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@rotated said in Best Test XI - General chat:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - General chat:
The whole six batsmen thing irks me a bit cos it means I theoretically can’t put in a keeper/batsman or all rounder. I’m not gonna pick Astle or McMillan just cos they were occasionally useful bowlers to balance the side.
Crowe and Williamson are both going to make it and could bowl as effectively or moreso than those two.
14 wickets in 77 tests.
If we’re hedging any bets on Hogans bowling ability then the team is fucked.
