Los Pumas 2020
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@taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Social media
and that is the problem these guys face today.
Remember Barnya, he went round deleting all sorts when he was applying for a job.
Smart. Changed his username here too
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@Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
So cool that we never had camera phones or social media in my stupid drinking years
This. Times a thousand.
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I think theres a difference between some old mate having said something in the 60's when it was a hell of a lot easier to be ignorant and someone claiming that even though they probably posted from a smart phone (ie infinite knowledge) they were ignorant in 2012
that's being said, yes, if he's changed then good, I hope it doesn't escalate too far
I would have thought a professional sports outfit would have looked at this stuff, especially for a captain
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@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
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@Siam said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
Sigh.....cancel culture wins again
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@MN5 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Siam said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
Sigh.....cancel culture wins again
It was 8 years ago FFS, and did I read that he'd apologised at the time?
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@canefan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@MN5 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Siam said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
Sigh.....cancel culture wins again
It was 8 years ago FFS, and did I read that he'd apologised at the time?
I think I read he said something about it being a personal message to a friend, an in joke kind of thing
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@canefan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@MN5 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Siam said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
Sigh.....cancel culture wins again
It was 8 years ago FFS, and did I read that he'd apologised at the time?
Obviously he didn't call a press conference and cry lots.
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The problems in the Pumas squad are not just about Matera. Petti and Socino have been suspended, too.
Argentina have been rocked ahead of the final Tri-Nations Test against the Wallabies after Pablo Matera was removed from his duties as captain. Matera, as well as two other senior players, lock Guido Petti and hooker Santiago Socino, look set to miss Saturday’s Tri-Nations finale for racist and xenophobic comments made on Twitter in 2011 and 2013. ‘The Argentine Rugby Union strongly repudiates the discriminatory and xenophobic comments published by members of the Los Pumas team on social networks and, meeting urgently, the board of directors resolves: First, revoke Pablo Matera’s captaincy and request the staff to propose a new captain to the board of directors,’ a directly translated statement read. ‘Second, suspend Pablo Matera, Guido Petti and Santiago Socino from the national team until their disciplinary situation is defined.’ Matera has taken the tweets down and suspended his Twitter account, but did publish an apology on his Instagram account. ‘I had a tougher time. I am very ashamed. Apologies to all those who were offended by the atrocities I wrote,’ Matera said.This quote comes from this article. It's from a media release that has been posted on the Argentinian Rugby Union (UAR) in this Twitter (thread):
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@Stargazer goodness me.
Those tweets better be pretty bad to get suspended 9 years on.
One of the issues I have about this is - if it's so bad, can't we see his integrity in day to day operations? Those folk have been living cheek and jowl for months; surely someone has seen something in the last 9 years to indicate that he shouldn't be a pro rugby player?
Cancel culture concerns me.
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@canefan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@MN5 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Siam said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
Sigh.....cancel culture wins again
It was 8 years ago FFS, and did I read that he'd apologised at the time?
he and two others are suspended for the game by the sound of it.
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@nzzp I have read comments from South American journalists, who say they are not surprised at all. Apparently, there is something inherently wrong with the "culture" in Argentinian rugby, the Union in particular. Things that happen and are swept under the carpet. They gave the example of a player beating the crap out of his wive and being allowed to play a week later (not a member of the Pumas squad).
Of course, I've no way of knowing whether any of that is true.
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@Kiwiwomble It's way more than a personal message. There are several public tweets, not all bad jokes. I have seen several of them.
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@canefan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@MN5 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Siam said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Pablo Matera stripped of captaincy after tweets emerge from 9 years ago... when he was 18. Social media people, it's a minefield.
'the Fern is my social media' T-shirts please
What a delicious paradox: Greatest captaincy performance in the history of Puma rugby gets condemned and booted all under the backdrop of Maradona idolation.
Modern sensibilities suck!
Sigh.....cancel culture wins again
It was 8 years ago FFS, and did I read that he'd apologised at the time?
He didn't apologise at the time. He apologised after someone dug up those tweets and posted screenshots on Twitter (tagging World Rugby and the Argentinian Union). This week, not 8 years ago.
You have to wonder why that person decided to post those tweets now. I don't think he accidentally found those old tweets; he must have known they existed.
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@Stargazer said in Los Pumas 2020:
@Kiwiwomble It's way more than a personal message. There are several public tweets, not all bad jokes. I have seen several of them.
I should have used an emoji, there was some eye role in someone claiming a tweet was private, the couple I’ve seen are pretty bad and I have limited sympathy
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Geez
The Pumas believe racist Pablo Matera tweets resurfaced as retaliation from the Argentinian public for a perceived lack of respect from the team for Diego Maradona.Sources close to the Argentinian team said on Tuesday they believe the Matera tweets were dug up and shared online to sabotage the team after they'd been the subject of an intense backlash from the Argentinian public for a perceived lack of respect for soccer legend Maradona in the wake of his passing last week. The Argentinians wore a black armband as a tribute to the late, great 60-year-old but were upstaged by the All Blacks, who laid a No.10 jersey with Maradona's name across it down prior to performing the haka. The intensity of the response is seen in online comments on the Pumas' social media accounts. An average Pumas post on Instagram draws about 100 comments, but in the 72 hours since the 38-0 drubbing at the hands of the All Blacks, that number was well into the thousands. Almost all of those additional comments slammed the Pumas for their perceived lack of respect towards Maradona, and the backlash was so intense that Matera issued a three-minute apology video alongside the entire Argentinian squad from the team's hotel on Monday night. "If both Diego did for you as we know and represents so much that the tribute is a piece of insulating tape on the arm, it is obviously a lack of respect," one top-rated comment read. "Do the homage on the (field). Where it should be. They had to receive the rejection of all Argentina to realize their error," said another.Pumas believe Maradona backlash behind racist tweets storm
Pumas captain Pablo Matera was sacked after old racist tweets re-surfaced and they believe a backlash about their respect for Maradona's death is involved.
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hang on, don't tell me this is partially because the ABs went one better? Los Pumas were upstaged?
I don't agree with racism, via twitter or whatever, but someone must have a bitter dose of revenge to go after Matera now. -
Not sure that there is really much different that Argentinian RU could do. They had to condemn the tweets and Matera, and once they did that if they took zero action it would risk ringing pretty hollow. I get the discretions of your youth stuff and all but plenty of youths pay a much steeper price than that for their errors. I don't see losing the captain's armband as being that steep a price.
