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    ras1927
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    Johnny Sexton showing his class in this game by feigning injury and getting lippy with Scottish players now the game's won. <br><br>
    And he's just been yellow carded. Good. Pathetic man.

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    Billy Tell
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    <p>Ireland have improved as the tournament wore on.  McCaw-esque levels of cynical play today though, which the ref didn't ping.  When we (NZ) play Ireland we will need to be ready for the boxkicks and the up 'n' unders, stop those and mauls, and Ireland will have to find other ways to score.</p>

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    Derm McCrum
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ras1927" data-cid="565934" data-time="1458413550"><p>
    Johnny Sexton showing his class in this game by feigning injury and getting lippy with Scottish players now the game's won. <br><br>
    And he's just been yellow carded. Good. Pathetic man.</p></blockquote> He didn't feign injury. He got a blow to the head from Dunbar's knee - by accident - as he arrived at breakdown and then Dunbar threw him.

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    sparky
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    England beat France 31-21, but I think that scoreline flattered them a bit tonight. Not their best performance.<br><br>
    Congratulations to Eddie Jones and his men on winning England's first Grand Slam since 2003.

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    Derm McCrum
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    #486

    Agreed. Congrats England on the Grand Slam. Well deserved overall. <br><br>
    Some outstanding players in the side tonight. <br><br>
    Enjoy the celebrations.

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    Mokey
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    <p>Oh nooooooo. My English boss is going to be unbearable tomorrow. (He made a Welsh dude at work wear an English rugby jersey for two days after that game)</p>

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    MN5
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="565980" data-time="1458429445">
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    <p>Oh nooooooo. My English boss is going to be unbearable tomorrow. (He made a Welsh dude at work wear an English rugby jersey for two days after that game)</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Writers have bosses ?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Aw and fuck the irish, continually tackling Scottish players who were only trying to score tries.</p>

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    Derm McCrum
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="566007" data-time="1458430671">
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    <p>Writers have bosses ?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Aw and fuck the irish, continually tackling Scottish players who were only trying to score tries.</p>
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    <p>It's a bitch, huh?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The fucking Sassenachs were doing the same to us, though, the other weekend.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As for the French...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Not quite sure what the Welsh were doing however.....</p>

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    Mokey
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="566007" data-time="1458430671">
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    <p>Writers have bosses ?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Aw and fuck the irish, continually tackling Scottish players who were only trying to score tries.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Ha, yes. Editors and publishing houses. But in this case I was talking about my dayjob boss.</p>

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    canefan
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="565957" data-time="1458425486"><p>
    Agreed. Congrats England on the Grand Slam. Well deserved overall.<br><br>
    Some outstanding players in the side tonight.<br><br>
    Enjoy the celebrations.</p></blockquote>
    So England rise from the ashes of their embarrassing RWC showing to win the GS for the first time in over a decade, ushering in a new era and rediscovered sense of hope and optimism that they can rise to the top of world rugby again. Well Fuck you and thanks for nothing Eddie Jones 😉

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    Siam
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    <p>The Eng Aus series should be a cracker</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Hope the Aussie hype machine is turned up full bore and stadiums are full </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But you bloody Aussie blokes have to win, if not the crowing and short memories will be unbearable</p>

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    Siam
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    #493

    <p>Congrats to England though, reached or exceeded all their hopes and expectations and as an AB supporter that's the stuff that  makes <em>me</em> happy, so our English fans should be well chuffed</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>fair dues</p>

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    rich1927
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="565937" data-time="1458415429">
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    <p>He didn't feign injury. He got a blow to the head from Dunbar's knee - by accident - as he arrived at breakdown and then Dunbar threw him.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Or more accurately; he got a blow to the head from Dunbar's knee - by accident -  as he arrived a the breakdown, then he competed for the ball for a bit and then Dunbar - very recklessly - threw him, then he appealed for the penalty and only then did he clutch his head. Ignoring the semantics of whether that's feigning injury or not, I think it's pathetic and is not something I enjoy seeing in rugby.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That aside I think Ireland do have some decent players coming through and will build nicely over the coming seasons. I enjoyed watching Scotland try and mix things up. Wales, for all their experience and players, are often brainless in attack. France's problems aren't limited to finding a decent 10 but that alone would move them forward massively. Italy need a lot of long term support to become competitive. England were by far the best team and deserved winners. </p>

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    Derm McCrum
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rich1927" data-cid="566131" data-time="1458464261">
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    <p>Or more accurately; he got a blow to the head from Dunbar's knee - by accident -  as he arrived a the breakdown, then he competed for the ball for a bit and then Dunbar - very recklessly - threw him, then he appealed for the penalty and only then did he clutch his head. Ignoring the semantics of whether that's feigning injury or not, I think it's pathetic and is not something I enjoy seeing in rugby.</p>
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    <p>It's not semantics if you're saying he feigned injury - that means he faked being injured in the head.    </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I was pointing out that he was injured in the head by the player that happened to throw him.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Since the whole thing from knee in back of head to clutching head in same spot happened in about 2-3 secs, I think saying "then he competed for the ball a bit, and then Dunbar threw him" is  a bit misleading.  He was already competing for the ball when Dunbar arrived into ruck at speed, kneeing Sexton forcefully in the back of head whilst grabbing hold of Sexton and throwing him.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Protesting to referee ain't nice whenever any player does it, but it happens all the time in the game these days unfortunately.</p>

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    rich1927
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="566157" data-time="1458473024">
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    <p>It's not semantics if you're saying he feigned injury - that means he faked being injured in the head.    </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I was pointing out that he was injured in the head by the player that happened to throw him.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Since the whole thing from knee in back of head to clutching head in same spot happened in about 2-3 secs, I think saying "then he competed for the ball a bit, and then Dunbar threw him" is  a bit misleading.  He was already competing for the ball when Dunbar arrived into ruck at speed, kneeing Sexton forcefully in the back of head whilst grabbing hold of Sexton and throwing him.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Protesting to referee ain't nice whenever any player does it, but it happens all the time in the game these days unfortunately.</p>
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    <p>You know what, at full speed you're right, my comment about competing for the ball a bit is misleading.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But when I watch the clip (here: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bit.ly/1T2Zcr0'>http://bit.ly/1T2Zcr0</a>) he seems to get the knee on the front left of his head but goes down clutching the top back right part of his head. That doesn't make sense. Claiming to be hurt somewhere other than where you were actually hurt - I don't doubt the knee hurt - is still feigning injury. That he clutched the part of his head that would've hit the ground from the reckless clear-out if he wasn't so lucky isn't protesting to the referee, it's trying to con him.  </p>

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    antipodean
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    <p>Clear yellow card. Clear knock to the head, keeps competing and once he's out of the contest grabs his head which isn't a surprise given the knock and the history he's had. Complete non-issue.</p>

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    Siam
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    #498

    <p>BOD threw his arms in the air ala poofball in NZ once to bring attention to a possible shoulder high tackle</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I thought it was just an Irish thing. :whistle:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>In the comments of Rich1927 link there are some pretty prominent rugby men laying into Sexton</p>

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    Derm McCrum
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rich1927" data-cid="566160" data-time="1458476676">
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    <p>You know what, at full speed you're right, my comment about competing for the ball a bit is misleading.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But when I watch the clip (here: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://bit.ly/1T2Zcr0'>http://bit.ly/1T2Zcr0</a>) he seems to get the knee on the front left of his head but goes down clutching the top back right part of his head. That doesn't make sense. Claiming to be hurt somewhere other than where you were actually hurt - I don't doubt the knee hurt - is still feigning injury. That he clutched the part of his head that would've hit the ground from the reckless clear-out if he wasn't so lucky isn't protesting to the referee, it's trying to con him. </p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Thanks for the clip - was trying to find one.   Looking at it, he does get the knee on the left hand side of his head towards the rear, not the front.   However, the clip provides another angle that I hadn't seen before, and I think his head does actually make contact with the ground when he's thrown - so he definitely had head pain in my view, hence his reaction.  Accusations of feigning injury are undeserved, in my view.</p>

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    MiketheSnow
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    <p>Well done England.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Took their chances, which other teams didn't.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And that was the difference.</p>

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    mooshld
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="566170" data-time="1458484640">
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    <p>Thanks for the clip - was trying to find one.   Looking at it, he does get the knee on the left hand side of his head towards the rear, not the front.   However, the clip provides another angle that I hadn't seen before, and I think his head does actually make contact with the ground when he's thrown - so he definitely had head pain in my view, hence his reaction.  Accusations of feigning injury are undeserved, in my view.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>His behavior the whole game was a disgrace. Gloating to Scottish players and bitching to the referee, Even going on with it after the whistle when the players are shaking hands., very very poor from him.</p>
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    <p>Whether he was hurt or not it can't have been that bad if he can sit up and seagull to the ref about it before clutching his head and waiting for the physios. The guy is fast becoming Mike Brown level of knob head. Add to that he had a very average game anyway and has not exactly set the world on fire this 6 nations. And yes its a straight yellow for a very dumb throw. But he would have gotten that regardless of grabbing his head or getting up and dusting up the Dunbar, he choose the real bitch option. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>He may be the best out half in Ireland but he is currently failing the no dickheads rule. A bit of humility goes a long way in this sport. </p>

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