Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato
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@Nepia said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@hydro11 said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Nepia said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@KiwiMurph said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
Pickerall is always super quick on the breakdown penalty.
Consistent both ways but the problem is it means the games he refs are super stop start.
My problem with breakdown penalties, and this is not just him, is that often there will be at least one or two attackers cleaning out the guy going for the ball, and they still get the penalty anyway despite the fact it all happens in a split second. (Unless of course they changed that law since I last read the laws).
I don't see the problem with this. A tackled player has to release the ball straight away and cannot play it on the ground. If they are holding on, they should get blown against. The player with the ball should just release it and then there can be a fair contest for the ball. It is a lot easier for the jackler if the tackled player holds onto the ball. If the tackled player releases it, the jackler has to actually pick the ball up cleanly while the other team is trying to win it back.
I'm not talking about the clear and obvious ones.
In my view it is always clear and obvious. The tackled player has to immediately release the ball. Any delay should be penalised.
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@hydro11 said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Nepia said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@hydro11 said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Nepia said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@KiwiMurph said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
Pickerall is always super quick on the breakdown penalty.
Consistent both ways but the problem is it means the games he refs are super stop start.
My problem with breakdown penalties, and this is not just him, is that often there will be at least one or two attackers cleaning out the guy going for the ball, and they still get the penalty anyway despite the fact it all happens in a split second. (Unless of course they changed that law since I last read the laws).
I don't see the problem with this. A tackled player has to release the ball straight away and cannot play it on the ground. If they are holding on, they should get blown against. The player with the ball should just release it and then there can be a fair contest for the ball. It is a lot easier for the jackler if the tackled player holds onto the ball. If the tackled player releases it, the jackler has to actually pick the ball up cleanly while the other team is trying to win it back.
I'm not talking about the clear and obvious ones.
In my view it is always clear and obvious. The tackled player has to immediately release the ball. Any delay should be penalised.
The problem is if you ref it that way you end up with non stop penalties - a stop/start game.
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@KiwiMurph said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@hydro11 said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Nepia said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@hydro11 said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Nepia said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@KiwiMurph said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
Pickerall is always super quick on the breakdown penalty.
Consistent both ways but the problem is it means the games he refs are super stop start.
My problem with breakdown penalties, and this is not just him, is that often there will be at least one or two attackers cleaning out the guy going for the ball, and they still get the penalty anyway despite the fact it all happens in a split second. (Unless of course they changed that law since I last read the laws).
I don't see the problem with this. A tackled player has to release the ball straight away and cannot play it on the ground. If they are holding on, they should get blown against. The player with the ball should just release it and then there can be a fair contest for the ball. It is a lot easier for the jackler if the tackled player holds onto the ball. If the tackled player releases it, the jackler has to actually pick the ball up cleanly while the other team is trying to win it back.
I'm not talking about the clear and obvious ones.
In my view it is always clear and obvious. The tackled player has to immediately release the ball. Any delay should be penalised.
The problem is if you ref it that way you end up with non stop penalties - a stop/start game.
I think the main thing is that a jackler has to get on the ball. So if a player doesn't release but a jackler isn't there it's not a penalty as no advantage is gained by the infringement.
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@Machpants said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
And Rayasi is playing like an All Black.
What giving away stupid penalties and not giving a full effort cod they think they're going to win by 20? 😜
No, the awesome defensive work and beating people for fun parts.
That Aussie rules style take was sweet to watch.
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@African-Monkey said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
I'm 50 mins into this game and geez does TJ have money on Waikato to win? Every decision that goes Auckland's way he sulks like a baby and has done nothing but rip into them when they make an error.
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
I suspect the reason why some don’t hear it is they kind of agree with TJs anti-Auckland stance. Difference is they aren’t paid to basically promote a sport.
Look at that Oz league commentator that makes a basic try seem like it was orgasmic. It’s almost like he likes the sport or something.
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@Duluth said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
There’s an AB test on that day. It’ll be TJ
I’ll start a petition for Lose.
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@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Duluth said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
There’s an AB test on that day. It’ll be TJ
I’ll start a petition for Lose.
Let’s not...
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@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@African-Monkey said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
I'm 50 mins into this game and geez does TJ have money on Waikato to win? Every decision that goes Auckland's way he sulks like a baby and has done nothing but rip into them when they make an error.
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
I suspect the reason why some don’t hear it is they kind of agree with TJs anti-Auckland stance. Difference is they aren’t paid to basically promote a sport.
Look at that Oz league commentator that makes a basic try seem like it was orgasmic. It’s almost like he likes the sport or something.
I can't speak for others, but I am not anti Auckland, or anyone else for that matter. I just don't care enough for that shit.
I have asked before, but someone give examples on how he is so mean to Auckland/Blues so I can see what I am missing. I recall TJ being critical and sounding frustrated at the Blues a few seasons ago when they were playing dumb rugby, but at the same time just about everyone on here were expressing the same frustrations.
Lately I have been hearing TJ shooting his load over some of the young Auckland players - Rayasi and Sullivan spring to mind.
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@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Duluth said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
There’s an AB test on that day. It’ll be TJ
I’ll start a petition for Lose.
I hope it works!!!
I'll start one for (q)Win!
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@Bovidae said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
I'm not a fan of TJ but I don't think he is anti-Auckland either. I certainly didn't think he was pro-Waikato in this game.
He is, however, pro- Ta$man and the Crusaders when he commentates them against any team
Can’t knock him for liking a winner 😉
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@Crazy-Horse said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@African-Monkey said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
I'm 50 mins into this game and geez does TJ have money on Waikato to win? Every decision that goes Auckland's way he sulks like a baby and has done nothing but rip into them when they make an error.
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
I suspect the reason why some don’t hear it is they kind of agree with TJs anti-Auckland stance. Difference is they aren’t paid to basically promote a sport.
Look at that Oz league commentator that makes a basic try seem like it was orgasmic. It’s almost like he likes the sport or something.
I can't speak for others, but I am not anti Auckland, or anyone else for that matter. I just don't care enough for that shit.
I have asked before, but someone give examples on how he is so mean to Auckland/Blues so I can see what I am missing. I recall TJ being critical and sounding frustrated at the Blues a few seasons ago when they were playing dumb rugby, but at the same time just about everyone on here were expressing the same frustrations.
Lately I have been hearing TJ shooting his load over some of the young Auckland players - Rayasi and Sullivan spring to mind.
Auckland does something good, muted enthusiasm. Opponent does the same thing, creams his pants.
Auckland makes a mistake, goes on a multi minute rant. Opponent does the same thing, doesn’t get mentioned.
Example from this game, Auckland player gets shoulder charged off the ball, with the whiplash effect it looked like it nearly knocked him out.
He goes on and on about it was a harsh penalty.
His job is to commentate, not cheerlead his favourites. Every other province gets a local colour commentator, and they generally keep him in check when he starts talking shit.
If we can’t replace this dickhead, then at least pair him with an ex Auckland player that can call him out when he displays his bias, and crucially can sound enthusiastic for the Auckland team in the biggest rugby market in the country.
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@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Crazy-Horse said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@African-Monkey said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
I'm 50 mins into this game and geez does TJ have money on Waikato to win? Every decision that goes Auckland's way he sulks like a baby and has done nothing but rip into them when they make an error.
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
I suspect the reason why some don’t hear it is they kind of agree with TJs anti-Auckland stance. Difference is they aren’t paid to basically promote a sport.
Look at that Oz league commentator that makes a basic try seem like it was orgasmic. It’s almost like he likes the sport or something.
I can't speak for others, but I am not anti Auckland, or anyone else for that matter. I just don't care enough for that shit.
I have asked before, but someone give examples on how he is so mean to Auckland/Blues so I can see what I am missing. I recall TJ being critical and sounding frustrated at the Blues a few seasons ago when they were playing dumb rugby, but at the same time just about everyone on here were expressing the same frustrations.
Lately I have been hearing TJ shooting his load over some of the young Auckland players - Rayasi and Sullivan spring to mind.
Auckland does something good, muted enthusiasm. Opponent does the same thing, creams his pants.
Auckland makes a mistake, goes on a multi minute rant. Opponent does the same thing, doesn’t get mentioned.
Example from this game, Auckland player gets shoulder charged off the ball, with the whiplash effect it looked like it nearly knocked him out.
He goes on and on about it was a harsh penalty.
His job is to commentate, not cheerlead his favourites. Every other province gets a local colour commentator, and they generally keep him in check when he starts talking shit.
If we can’t replace this dickhead, then at least pair him with an ex Auckland player that can call him out when he displays his bias, and crucially can sound enthusiastic for the Auckland team in the biggest rugby market in the country.
Yeah I recall him going on about the shoulder charge but saw it as him not agreeing with the penalty, not an anti Auckland thing. But I acknowledge that could come across as anti Auckland if you had a horse in the race.
Reminds me of people saying Justin Marshall favours the Crusaders in his commentary, but from my perspective as a Crusader supporter it seems the opposite. It's like he deliberately goes against the Crusaders to appear neutral. We all see and interpret things differently.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Crazy-Horse said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@Kirwan said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
@African-Monkey said in Premiership Semi-Final: Auckland v Waikato:
I'm 50 mins into this game and geez does TJ have money on Waikato to win? Every decision that goes Auckland's way he sulks like a baby and has done nothing but rip into them when they make an error.
It’s painful, hopefully they give Nisbo the final.
I suspect the reason why some don’t hear it is they kind of agree with TJs anti-Auckland stance. Difference is they aren’t paid to basically promote a sport.
Look at that Oz league commentator that makes a basic try seem like it was orgasmic. It’s almost like he likes the sport or something.
I can't speak for others, but I am not anti Auckland, or anyone else for that matter. I just don't care enough for that shit.
I have asked before, but someone give examples on how he is so mean to Auckland/Blues so I can see what I am missing. I recall TJ being critical and sounding frustrated at the Blues a few seasons ago when they were playing dumb rugby, but at the same time just about everyone on here were expressing the same frustrations.
Lately I have been hearing TJ shooting his load over some of the young Auckland players - Rayasi and Sullivan spring to mind.
Auckland does something good, muted enthusiasm. Opponent does the same thing, creams his pants.
Auckland makes a mistake, goes on a multi minute rant. Opponent does the same thing, doesn’t get mentioned.
Example from this game, Auckland player gets shoulder charged off the ball, with the whiplash effect it looked like it nearly knocked him out.
He goes on and on about it was a harsh penalty.
His job is to commentate, not cheerlead his favourites. Every other province gets a local colour commentator, and they generally keep him in check when he starts talking shit.
If we can’t replace this dickhead, then at least pair him with an ex Auckland player that can call him out when he displays his bias, and crucially can sound enthusiastic for the Auckland team in the biggest rugby market in the country.
Yeah I recall him going on about the shoulder charge but saw it as him not agreeing with the penalty, not an anti Auckland thing. But I acknowledge that could come across as anti Auckland if you had a horse in the race.
Reminds me of people saying Justin Marshall favours the Crusaders in his commentary, but from my perspective as a Crusader supporter it seems the opposite. It's like he deliberately goes against the Crusaders to appear neutral. We all see and interpret things differently.
And you would have a point if it was just me going on about his bias, but even non-Auckland fans notice it.
