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    @Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    @ACT-Crusader For me, the best game was Hawke's Bay v Canterbury, exactly because there was no ABs presence that would have created an advantage for one team only. It was an awesome contest.

    having better players is considered an unfair advantage now?

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    @akan004 said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    @Rapido I actually like not seeing the ABs in the NPC. It allows us to watch the next generation of players which is the most exciting thing about the NPC for me. Many of them won't get selected if the ABs are in it.

    Come on. 210 starters, 322 players in total in each round of the NPC. 31 players in the AB squad.

    The next generation, apart from in Canterbury, are going to be playing anyway.

    What we don't see, is the next generation match up against All Blacks. and don't get large crowds.

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    @Kiwiwomble Who mentioned the word "unfair"? Not me.

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    @Stargazer "fair" normally mean even for both parties and you said an advantage for one team only

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    @Kiwiwomble It's factual that one team would have had a greater advantage than the other. I didn't connect any value judgment to that; you did.

    What I did like was the resulting contest because it was a real, exciting arm wrestle.

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    @Stargazer you said it was the best game because one team didn't have an advantage, best = value

    all im saying dont think we can begrudge teams wanting to be able to put out their best players

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    @Stargazer although, sometimes depending where in the season they come back, it can be more disruptive

    Think it was 2008 when Northland nabbed a rare win over Auckland 13-21 in the last round of the season, they got a number of ABs including Mealamu, Rok...denying Auckland a chance at the finals in the process (which if we hadnt have taken the penalty kick on full time, they would have)

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    @Kiwiwomble said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    @Derpus yeah, SA has a pretty comfy safety net in the NH. we need to start playing nice i think

    I'm not sure the 6N wants them. Everyone focusses on what SA wants, but only the Pro 14 seems to want them, and they are a very different beast to the 6N.

    I do not htink it will end as well as everyone thinks

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    @Derpus said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    I thought all four unions had agreed. Saffas had made that agreement conditional. That's why when NZRU wanted to make it five weeks they objected.

    The reasons not to come make some sense, even if i do think they are basically just 'shit we'll be underdone and lose Number 1'. Waiting till now to say so is negligent.

    NZRU and RA need to put the knives away and secure the future of SR and TRC asap. Getting Japan involved in the TRC is a no fucken brainer.

    I'd use a stronger word.

    And I agree fully.

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    It's official.

    GREEN LIGHT FOR 2020 TRI-NATIONS

    The Springboks withdrawal from TRC means a Tri-Nations tournament will now take place in Australia between the All Blacks, Pumas and Wallabies.

    SANZAAR has announced today that the South African team will not travel to Australia to play in The Rugby Championship 2020 against Argentina, Australia and New Zealand. Due to several factors, including South African government travel restrictions, player welfare and safety concerns, and the ongoing effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on South African players both in South Africa and across their various clubs in the UK and Europe, the Springboks will remain in South Africa.

    The impact of this will see SANZAAR now reverting back to its original international competition format of the Tri-Nations, this time involving Argentina, Australia and New Zealand. SANZAAR and its stakeholders realise how hard this season has been due to the pandemic and it is an achievement in itself to get to a point where six international matches will be played in Australia across six consecutive weekends. The six-match Tri-Nations will see each team play each other twice ,with matches to be played in Sydney, Brisbane and Newcastle.

    SANZAAR CEO Andy Marinos stated, “COVID is just a gift that keeps on giving! Naturally, it is extremely disappointing that the Springboks, due to the continued complexities of operating in and around this COVID environment, cannot fully compete in the previously planned six-round Rugby Championship. That said this now presents us with a unique opportunity, in this our 25th year, to close off 2020 with a SANZAR Tri Nations Competition.”

    “SANZAR recognises the challenges and adversity that the national unions have had to face this year due to the pandemic. It is a tribute to the Unions in how they have been able to adapt and, dependent on COVID restrictions, run domestic competitions with the exception of Argentina who has been impacted the hardest through their lockdown. These short domestic tournaments, and in Argentina’s case no domestic competition, are not the normal lead into an international window, and while it has been a far from ideal preparation we look forward to an exciting and vibrant Tr-Nations tournament.”

    “I would like to make special mention of Rugby Australia as hosts and the NSW Government who have shown great support and flexibility through this testing planning period. We have once again continued to be supported by all our broadcasters who have shown great patience and support of the sport as we endeavoured to deliver an international rugby tournament, that will now take the form of a Tri-Nations series,” added Marinos.

    South African Rugby CEO, Jurie Roux, stated, "SANZAAR and Rugby Australia have bent over backwards to make the tournament happen and it would have been unfair on them and their partners and state government to delay a decision any longer. This is a hugely disappointing outcome for supporters and commercial partners but the on-going impacts of the pandemic in multiple dispensations mean we are unable to deliver a Springbok team without seriously compromising player welfare, apart from other logistical challenges.”

    The first two matches involving Australia and New Zealand double up as the final two Bledisloe Cup matches.


    Tri-Nations Match Schedule 2020

    October 31: Australia v New Zealand (ANZ Stadium, Sydney)
    November 7: Australia v New Zealand (Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane)
    November 14: New Zealand v Argentina (Bankwest Stadium, Sydney)
    November 21: Argentina v Australia (McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle)
    November 28: Argentina v New Zealand (McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle)
    December 5: Australia v Argentina (Bankwest Stadium, Sydney)

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    And everybody gets home for Christmas.

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    so have tickets for the double headers been sold, and were they priced as accordingly, or was it just a bonus having 2 teams?

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    @Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    South African Rugby CEO, Jurie Roux, stated, "SANZAAR and Rugby Australia have bent over backwards to make the tournament happen and it would have been unfair on them and their partners and state government to delay a decision any longer. This is a hugely disappointing outcome for supporters and commercial partners but the on-going impacts of the pandemic in multiple dispensations mean we are unable to deliver a Springbok team without seriously compromising player welfare, apart from other logistical challenges.”

    What a cocksucker.

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    @Derpus said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    @Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    South African Rugby CEO, Jurie Roux, stated, "SANZAAR and Rugby Australia have bent over backwards to make the tournament happen and it would have been unfair on them and their partners and state government to delay a decision any longer. This is a hugely disappointing outcome for supporters and commercial partners but the on-going impacts of the pandemic in multiple dispensations mean we are unable to deliver a Springbok team without seriously compromising player welfare, apart from other logistical challenges.”

    What a cocksucker.

    perfectly put

    where is the game on the 24th? are they ruining my perfect weekend?

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @Derpus said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    @Stargazer said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    South African Rugby CEO, Jurie Roux, stated, "SANZAAR and Rugby Australia have bent over backwards to make the tournament happen and it would have been unfair on them and their partners and state government to delay a decision any longer. This is a hugely disappointing outcome for supporters and commercial partners but the on-going impacts of the pandemic in multiple dispensations mean we are unable to deliver a Springbok team without seriously compromising player welfare, apart from other logistical challenges.”

    What a cocksucker.

    Yes.
    So these professional players aren't staying fit / flexible / healthy? (Yes I know contact and match fitness count too, but there are ways to do that in Aus, warm up matches, contact training, etc).

    There are planes dumped all over the world doing nothing, so what are these logistical challenges? I'm free, I'll fly them to Aus. Pretty sure the hotels aren't exactly booked out too.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    The politics of COVID clear and simple.

    Disappointing.

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    @ACT-Crusader Certainly politics. Player welfare and logisitics I question.

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    @mariner4life next Saturday was going to be epic. Selfish Saffas.

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    If, and it is still a big if, the Lions tour goes ahead next year the Boks will be seriously underdone. They won't have many options for teams to play in any warmup games either.

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    @Bovidae said in 2020 Rugby Championship in Oz:

    If, and it is still a big if, the Lions tour goes ahead next year the Boks will be seriously underdone. They won't have many options for teams to play in any warmup games either.

    They won't care. It doesn't effect world ranking, and they'll make money no matter the results

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