2020 NZ Schools
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The Highlanders U18s lead 21 - 5 at half time.
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@Bovidae none of the crusaders players are first 5.
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@chchfanatic Thanks. Maybe there are two from the Blues region. It would be good to get a breakdown by position of the squad.
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It looks like the Highlanders U18s won this afternoon's game 42 to 17.
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Harry Godfrey (Whanganui Collegiate) is one of the other 1st 5s so that is three.
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@Bovidae said in 2020 NZ Schools:
Interesting also that even though the Crusaders have a reputation of producing 1st 5s this is the second time in recent years they have a 1st 5 from the NI. Previously it was Fergus Burke (St Paul's Collegiate) and now Jack Parker (NPBHS).
There was certainly a proliferation there for a while, but it wasn't gonna last forever. Maybe the STAC 10 from the latter part of the season might come through.
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I saw an advertisement for the live coverage of the NZ Schools game (Andy Haden XV vs Alan Whetton XV) on Sky TV today. It is on Friday from 11 am.
I would expect the teams will be named on Wed or Thu.
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Teams have been named, and not what I was expecting.
Live on SS1 at 11:10 am today. I'll go along and watch.
HADEN XV
- Rohan Wingham (Kings High School)
- Aminiasi Toga (St Andrew's College)
- Harris McRobbie (Rangiora High School)
- Alan Craig (St Kentigern College)
- Fabian Holland (Christchurch Boys' High School)
- Ollie Haig (Otago Boys' High School)
- Will Bason (St Kentigern College)
- Te Rama Reuben (St Kentigern College)
- Joel Parry (St Andrew's College)
- Ajay Faleafaga (St Peter's College, Auckland)
- Luron Iosefa (Kings College)
- Quinlan Tupou (St Peter's Cambridge)
- Fehi Fineanganofo (Auckland Grammar School)
- Jeremiah Asi (St Peter's College)
- Chicago Doyle (King's College)
Reserves
16. Lavengamonu (Monu) Moli (Marlborough Boys' College)
17. Tony Tafa (Kelston Boys)
18. Steve Salelea (Kings High School)
19. Dominic Ropeti (Scots College)
20. Elyjah Crosswell (Palmerston North Boys' High School)
21. Dayton Iobu (Kings College)
22. Taha Kemara (Hamilton Boys High School)
23. Jayden Stok (Napier Boys' High School)
24. Ollie Curtis (Christchurch Boys' High School)WHETTON XV
- Mason Tupaea (Hamilton Boys' High School)
- James Mullan (Rangiora High School)
- Havila Molia (St Paul's Collegiate)
- Jadin Kingi (Sacred Heart)
- Jamie Hannah (Christchurch Boys' High School)
- Torian Barnes (St Andrew's College)
- Fletcher Anderson (Christ's College)
- Wallace Sititi (De La Salle College)
- Noah Hotham (Hamilton Boys High School)
- Christian Stenhouse (St Patrick's College)
- Jone Rova (New Plymouth Boys' High School)
- Riley Higgins (St Patrick's College Silverstream)
- Isi Saumaki (St Andrew's College)
- Blake Makiri (St Peter's Cambridge)
- Oliver Foote (Hamilton Boys High School)
Reserves
16. Hanz Leota (Scots College)
17. Bradley Crichton (St Patricks College)
18. Siale Lauaki (St Patricks College)
19. Fiti Sa (Christs College)
20. Che Clarke (Kings College)
21. George Methven (St Bede's College)
22. Adam Lennox (Whanganui Collegiate)
23. Harry Godfrey (Whanganui Collegiate) -
Speaking to someone at the game they tried to select two evenly matched squads earlier in the week and they trained separately. I won't mention the result for anyone who intends to watch it later.
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Have watched the game,and was most impressed with the talent on display.We continue to talk of the quality of the schoolboy game and this crop no exception. This game was a pleasure to watch.Good on the scouts who found the players for the two teams.I thought the winning team played with a bit more connection.
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On the subject of scouts, I did walk past a Warriors vehicle.
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Yes they are like cattle buyers,casting their eyes over a pen of weaners!!
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From Dargaville to Dunedin,how on earth do they value the boys against each other,but I didn’t think any of the selected were out of their depth.The time old lack of very tall beefy locks was probably evident,but they still played well.
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Fabian Holland, no.5 in the red team is a giant. He's also Dutch, so another European kid playing over here.
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Sorry I stand corrected.
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Thanks Bovidae by the way for putting up the teams on the site.Very helpful whilst watching at home.
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@trodthesod That helped me too as they didn't hand out any match programme to the spectators. Relying on parents yelling out a player's name also helped.
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I missed this game, unfortunately. If anyone discovers a replay of this game in the tv schedule (I haven't been able to find one), please, post it here.
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@Stargazer Tomorrow at 3 pm on Ch50.
I recorded the game so will watch a replay.
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When does the NZ Secondary School squad get named?I don’t think they play, but obviously would be the future go to players In the NZ age group teams.,so it would have prestige to be named.
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@trodthesod said in 2020 NZ Schools:
When does the NZ Secondary School squad get named?I don’t think they play, but obviously would be the future go to players In the NZ age group teams.,so it would have prestige to be named.
There has been talk that a NZS team will be named from the 50 that played last Friday, even if they won't play a game.
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@trodthesod I think the WHETTON XV was this year's version of NZ Schools (they played in black) and the HADEN XV was the NZ Barabarians Schools (they played in the usual red Barbarians jerseys). So I don't think there will be an official NZ Schools team, this year.
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@Stargazer No. As I said after attending the game on Friday, they tried to pick two evenly matched teams (on paper at least). Some of the players in the Haden team would be in the NZS team.
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Have been told the two teams that played where selected to be of equal strength,but certainly the Whetton XV played a great second half that stretched the score to 8 tries to 2.
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2020 New Zealand Secondary Schools' team
Player School Ajay Faleafaga St Peter's College Allan Craig St Kentigern College Blake Makiri St Peter's School Cambridge Che Clarke Kings College Fabian Holland Christchurch Boys' High School Fehi Fineanganofo Auckland Grammar School Fletcher Anderson Christ's College George Methven St Bede's College Hanz Leota Scots College Harry Godfrey Whanganui Collegiate Havila Molia St Paul's Collegiate Isi Saumaki St Andrew's College James Mullan Rangiora High School Jamie Hannah Christchurch Boys' High School Joel Parry St Andrew's College Luron Iosefa King's College Mason Tupaea Hamilton Boys' High School Monu Moli Marlborough Boys' High School Noah Hotham Hamilton Boys' High School Oliver Foote Hamilton Boys' High School Riley Higgins St Patrick's College Silverstream Rohan Wingham King's High School Siale Lauaki St Patrick's College Town Caleb Tangitau Westlake Boys' High School Torian Barnes St Andrew's College Will Bason St Kentigern College 2020 New Zealand Barbarian Schools's team
Player School Adam Lennox Whanganui Collegiate Bradley Crichton St Patrick's College Town Chicago Doyle King's College Christian Stenhouse St Patrick's College Town Dayton Iobu King's College Dominic Ropeti Scots College Elyjah Crosswell Palmerston North Boys' High School Fiti Sa Christ's College Harris McRobbie Rangiora High School Jadin Kingi Sacred Heart College Jayden Stok Napier Boys' High School Jeremiah Asi St Peter's College Jone Rova New Plymouth Boys' High School Lucas Payne Dargaville College Mini Toga St Andrews College Ollie Curtis Christchurch Boys High School Ollie Haig Otago Boys' High School Owen Wright Aotea College Quinlan Tupou St Peter's Cambridge Steve Salelea King's High School Taha Kemara Hamilton Boy's High School Te Rama Reuben St Kentigern College Tony Tafa Kelston Boy's High School Wallace Sititi De La Salle College New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has today announced the 2020 New Zealand Secondary Schools and New Zealand Barbarians Schools teams. The teams will not play in 2020 but selectors have named the sides to recognise the efforts of the secondary school players this season. NZR High Performance Talent Identification Manager PJ Williams said selections were made from players performances across the 1st XV season and the Barbarians Under 18 Development Camps last month. “This is fantastic recognition for a group of players that have had a disrupted 1st XV season. I am sure they will be disappointed that they cannot pull on the black jersey this year, but being named in these teams is a great achievement, nonetheless. “After the Barbarians Camp earlier this month, all players were given individual performance plans and we look forward to seeing what the achieve in coming years,” said Williams.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/secondary-schools-players-recognised-in-representative-team-naming/
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So they've picked players like Moli who didn't even start in the Whetton vs Haden game in the NZ Schools team. Having the right surname helps.
It would have been good to see a starting XV selected rather than just a squad.
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Pity they don't play each other, best of three
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@Bovidae I find the whole process terribly frustrating from start to finish. I've vented my criticism before, so won't repeat it, but it's sad to see talented players miss out due to the way the selections are taking place for both camps and teams.
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@Stargazer There are definitely some players in the Barbarian team that I expected to make the NZ Schools team, and I am sure other players good enough to be involved that weren't even selected.
I'll pick my XV later.
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Great to see Isi Saumaki St Andrews winger selected, he is a star in the making big with real pace.
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This would be my top XV based on who has been picked in the squad, and what I have seen live and on TV.
1 Mason Tupaea (Hamilton Boys' High School)
2 James Mullan (Rangiora High School)
3 Havila Molia (St Paul's Collegiate)
4 Alan Craig (St Kentigern College)
5 Jamie Hannah (Christchurch Boys' High School)
6 Che Clarke (Kings College)
7 Fletcher Anderson (Christ's College)
8 George Methven (St Bede's College)
9 Noah Hotham (Hamilton Boys High School)
10 Ajay Faleafaga (St Peter's College, Auckland)
11 Luron Iosefa (Kings College)
12 Riley Higgins (St Patrick's College Silverstream)
13 Isi Saumaki (St Andrew's College)
14 Blake Makiri (St Peter's Cambridge)
15 Oliver Foote (Hamilton Boys High School)In the forwards, I think the only question mark would be at 6. It could be Torian Barnes. I actually expected Te Rama Reuben to make this team. While Hannah plays 6 for CBHS there are better options so he goes back to lock.
In the backs, maybe Caleb Tangitau at fullback but Foote was selected ahead of him in the Whetton XV , as was Chicago Doyle in the Haden XV.
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Jadin Kingi from Sacred Hearts is Bruce Robertson's grandson.
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@taniwharugby said in 2020 NZ Schools:
Jadin Kingi from Sacred Hearts is Bruce Robertson's grandson.
He looks like a good prospect.
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Bovidae.Value your input with NZ Secondary School rugby and your team looks strong.A question I’d like to ask,did you watch the two boys from Whanganui Lennox and Godfrey during their season?I thought they both played well at St Paul’s.I see you didn’t go with the big lock Holland.Bit slow I thought .
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Only just discovered that the Crusaders finally published their list of U18 players on their website (backdated).
This list also includes the female players. Jorja Miller was one of the girls attending the camp. Some of you will remember her from the Condor 7s and World School 7s. It must be her last year in school, I think. It will be interesting to see how she progresses. She looked like a mini, female McCaw, destined for a big future in women's rugby.
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@trodthesod said in 2020 NZ Schools:
Bovidae.Value your input with NZ Secondary School rugby and your team looks strong.A question I’d like to ask,did you watch the two boys from Whanganui Lennox and Godfrey during their season?I thought they both played well at St Paul’s.I see you didn’t go with the big lock Holland.Bit slow I thought .
I thought Godfrey played well at 1st 5 when he came on in the 2nd half. Lennox was OK but I would rate him as the 4th of the halfbacks involved in that match. I expected Iobu to be in with a good chance as he was in the Barbarian Schools team last year, and often those players progress to the top team the following year. Hannah was the same, which is why I think he would be picked with Craig. Hannah is a beanpole though so needs to pack on the weight. Holland is huge and fairly mobile for his size but I doubt he would start ahead of the other two.
I didn't get to see many CNI games as they usually clashed with the Super 8 games, apart from the St Paul's-St Peter's game which was on TV.
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Yes I agree with you about Lennox,but he had a surprising influence with his team mate in that second half.I think they were operating behind a better pack though.
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The other thing I will say is that a few of the players selected in these teams in 2019 are playing M10 Cup this year so it will be interesting to see how many, and who, make that step up quickly.
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An amusing little story to come out of the boys camp at St Paul’s.Tom and Tana asked two boys from the same school what defence pattern they used.They both gave different answers.,so they asked the third boy from the same school what defence system they used.He gave his answer .Tana and Tom said well that’s not what your mates said.He replied “ Well that’s why our defence was bloody crap Sir “ he replied.
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