Hawke's Bay v Counties Manukau
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Hawkes Bay surely must back themselves to beat Canterbury next week after today's performance. With Canterbury missing their All Blacks and Hawkes Bay only missing Webber they surely must go close to being favourites at home.
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@Canes4life said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
Hawkes Bay surely must back themselves to beat Canterbury next week after today's performance. With Canterbury missing their All Blacks and Hawkes Bay only missing Webber they surely must go close to being favourites at home.
Don't go too crazy it was only Counties - right @Crucial?
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@Nepia said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Canes4life said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
Hawkes Bay surely must back themselves to beat Canterbury next week after today's performance. With Canterbury missing their All Blacks and Hawkes Bay only missing Webber they surely must go close to being favourites at home.
Don't go too crazy it was only Counties - right @Crucial?
Sadly, yes.
Despite my optimism it looks very much like we are (nearly) full of average players. Competent but won't have many teams chasing their contracts.
I wish I could say that they just need a little time to gel under a new coach but they look OK in that area.
Simply not quite good enough. -
A week can be a long time in Rugby. Hawkes Bay clearly went away after last week , and had a long look in the mirror. What I saw yesterday, was a team playing with real intent, and a pattern and style of play that was good to see. Yes there were some basic errors made (handling, and turning over possession) but overall you'd give that a pass mark. Stacey Ili was outstanding, and his penetration in the midfield was impressive. Brad Weber's clearance at the breakdown and scrum was quick and very accurate. Visinia I thought was very hard to handle on the wing, and Devan Flanders showed why he is rated so highly. I still don't think the loose forward mix is right, but that will alleviate itself. Goalkicking is stii a concern, and you would hope that is worked on this week. A real test comes this week with Canterbury coming to town, and they'll be pissed off having lost the Shield. However as we all know they'll be no All Blacks available, and that evens it out somewhat. If Hawkes Bay eliminate the basic errors and again play with intent we could be in for a beauty.
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@Crucial said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Billsy111 You guys also need to do some lineout drive training. The moves were so predictable that even our motley bunch knew what you were about to do and were able to nullify.
*apart from that bullshit YC/PT callI just think we don't need to overuse it, overuse of it contributed to our loss against Southland and a few times last year.
We have some bloody good backs and top class loosies, we should base more attack around them rather than overdoing the lineout drives.
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@Nepia said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Crucial said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Billsy111 You guys also need to do some lineout drive training. The moves were so predictable that even our motley bunch knew what you were about to do and were able to nullify.
*apart from that bullshit YC/PT callI just think we don't need to overuse it, overuse of it contributed to our loss against Southland and a few times last year.
We have some bloody good backs and top class loosies, we should base more attack around them rather than overdoing the lineout drives.
It was more the case that you only had one drive move (apart from going around our side and dragging it down to get a PT) and we studied it beforehand. Shit coaching on your side.
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@Crucial said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Nepia said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Crucial said in Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau:
@Billsy111 You guys also need to do some lineout drive training. The moves were so predictable that even our motley bunch knew what you were about to do and were able to nullify.
*apart from that bullshit YC/PT callI just think we don't need to overuse it, overuse of it contributed to our loss against Southland and a few times last year.
We have some bloody good backs and top class loosies, we should base more attack around them rather than overdoing the lineout drives.
It was more the case that you only had one drive move (apart from going around our side and dragging it down to get a PT) and we studied it beforehand. Shit coaching on your side.
Yeah, as you had a whole season and one game of it to study.