Ultimate NPC: - Northland
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@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:
is tough when you have some players you are basing your veiw on what you have read or what other people who saw them play said.
Johnny SMith a prime example (I admit I knew little about him, other than he played for North Auckland and AB's)
Named in Wynne Grays 100 Greatest ABs...
I've known about JB since I was a boy as I had lots of old rugby books and he was a great Maori centre. I think he'd make every list of 100 greatest ABs.
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@taniwharugby it's a really tough call as I didn't see Morgan play.
Morgan played a record 165 games for Northland and 5 ABs games.
Jack has already played more ABs matches (though 14 v 5 is not significantly more) and there will be many more to come.Right now - I think Goodhue misses out.
If we have this debate in another few years, Jack may well get his nose in front. -
OK, so looking like team pretty much picks itself aside from a few positions?
1 - Con Barrell (Northland/North Auckland Caps - 77, AB's - 4 matches, 0 tests)
2 - Whitcombe (20,5) Sloane (146, 1)
3 - Richie Guy (91, 4)
4 - Ian Jones (66, 79)
5 - Glenn Taylor (143, 1)
6 - Norm Maxwell (38, 36)
7 - Gus Collins (114, 0)
8 - Peter Jones (79, 37)
9 - Sid Going (110, 29)
10 - David Holwell (115, 0)
11 - Rupeni Caucau (21, 0)
12 - Johnny Smith (41, 4)
13 - Jack Goodhue (9, 14)
14 - Rene Ranger (88, 6)
15 - Warren Johnstone (161, 0) Jared Payne (36, Ire 20) Norm Berryman (107*, 1)As above, I'd be inclined to play Taylor as the lock, and Maxwell at 6 to give a bit more grunt at scrumtime, I'd like Berryman in there too, but he'd have to go to push out Johnny Smith (and Goodhue to 12) or go to 15, so not sure he can start
Although is an argument Goodhue could go to Canterbury having played more for them than us...although thye'd probably just loan him out to Ta$man
Who would be Captain? Glenn Taylor? Whitcombe?
*Honors board says Berryman played 107 times for Northland, but I found an article after he died stating 75...
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@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:
I'd like Berryman in there too, but he'd have to go to push out Johnny Smith (and Goodhue to 12) or go to 15, so not sure he can start
Berryman on the wing, Ranger to 12 and Goodhue stays at 13?
@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:
Who would be Captain? Glenn Taylor? Whitcombe?
I'd go for Taylor. He was massive in leading that late 90's side
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No love for David Manako?
Played with him in U21s for Eden (Where I got made captain coz I spoke English as my first language). He joined us after the 1st XV comp finished. Can't remember which school he was at. But he was a contemporary of Willie O. (May not have been 100% qualified to stay in NZ ...)
Was a superstar for us.
Couple of years later I saw some Northland games on TB and he was cutting it up.
Yeah he was no Fred Woodman ... But...
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@taniwharugby said in Ultimate NPC: - Northland:
12 - Johnny Smith (41, 4)
8 - Peter Jones (79, 37)So we need to remove these 2 as they pre-date the NPC, so I'd say we move Goodhue to 12, either Payne or Berryman to 13.
#8, who do we put here? Could put Tuiali'i here, but Cantabs have more claim to him, but wont need him.
Johnny Smith (rugby union) - Wikipedia
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