NZ v Australia Test #2
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<p>Yeah, more Rosco +2 others = ouch.</p>
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<p>Early days but I do think Santner adds a lot to the team.</p> -
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<p>Right, we've done more then enough analysis of Test #1, time to flush the dunny and move on.</p>
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<p>Bracewell out, Rosco (still) out, Santner (still) out. Ouch.</p>
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<p>So we're looking at:</p>
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<p>Latham</p>
<p>Guppy</p>
<p>Kane</p>
<p>Nicholls</p>
<p>Baz</p>
<p>Anderson</p>
<p>BJ</p>
<p>Craig</p>
<p>Wagner/Henry</p>
<p>Southee</p>
<p>Boult</p>
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<p>I do hope they take Henry, but will understand if they go for Wagner as he is more of a "3rd seamer" I.E. can truck in all day long with the old ball and hussle out wickets.</p>
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<p>If hydro is to be believed then Baz should, statistically speaking, be odds on to win the toss after losing the first. Bowl first and try and get the upper hand. You have to against Aus, you let them get even a sniff of the upper hand and it's all over.</p>
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<p>We gave Baz the ultimate send off from the ODI game. Now time to do the same in the test match arena.</p>
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<p>All my statistical analysis breaks down if tosses aren't independent :yes:</p>
<p>If Santner was fit he would probably slot in at 6 and you can pick 4 fast bowlers.</p> -
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<p>A first look at the pitch. But what will it look like on Sat morning?</p>
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<p><img src="http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/9/u/w/t/9/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.19uvbi.png/1455751384337.jpg" title="" alt="1455751384337.jpg"></p>
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<p>Man looks like an very green deck even at this late stage. Hopefully it does dry out a bit over the next couple of days because I'm not sure we have the batting lineup (should we be sent in again) to deal with a greenish wicket.</p> -
<p>Not sure I'm quite in the "we are a great shot at winning this!" brigade. Last 2 years we've pumped Sri Lanka (not <em>IN</em> SL tho), the Windies (who are terrible), but generally been reamed by the Aussies ( 4 loses & a draw), couldn't beat an England team in disaray & won a weird one in Pak thanks to a Baz special after getting thrashed in the first one... that hardly screams "we are killing it!".</p>
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<p>And against the big guys its very much been Kane & Ross hit a ton it or we get thrashed.</p>
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<p>But at least the groundsman is doing his job, a fast seamer, give Boult & Timmy a chance to win it. Pretty kmuch the model we saw in the day nighter. We can't beat Aussie on a 50/50 pitch, so our best hope is a seam friendly one that its a struggle to get past 250 on. It really does come down to the wicket. Unless its a VERY bowler friendly pitch its hard to see anything other than a repeat of the first one.</p>
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<p>For that reason I'd lean towards Henry, ultimately we have to take 20 wickets. </p> -
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<p>Slight bit of panic setting in. The game isn't appearing to select within Sky Go!!!</p>
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<p>Anyone else have this issue?</p>
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<p>You're a day early, it starts tomorrow.</p> -
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<p>You're a day early, it starts tomorrow.</p>
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<p>Right there!! You have just ruined my day!</p>
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<p>I was certain it started today. Gutted</p> -
<p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
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<p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
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<p>optimist</p> -
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<p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
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<p>I really want it to go to the 5th day, otherwise I'll have to go back to work early.</p> -
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<p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
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<p>Yeah I agree, those Aussies showed fight and a bit of talent, I think they can stretch us to a third day at least.</p> -
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<p>think of it this way Hooroo, least it will go on past Sunday now ;)</p>
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<p>Yeah I agree, those Aussies showed fight and a bit of talent, I think they can stretch us to a third day at least.</p> -
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<p>It's strange but one of the positive things about BMac's captaincy in ODIs is actually a weakness in test cricket.</p>
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<p>The revolutionary thing about BMac in ODIs (and part of the reason that NZ made the final in CWC) was his refusal to stick to a formula with his bowlers. Bowling dangerous bowlers until they finished their 10 rather than switch to the weaker bowlers - once the opposition was struggling. See how many times a side has 5 down and the skipper switches to his weaker bowlers to use up their allocation, the batsmen get set and the previously dangerous bowlers get thrashed to all parts when they return.</p>
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<p>In tests, BMac has shown a gambler's approach when he needs wickets - example is Stokes in the first test at Lords last year. Kept on trying to buy his wicket because he was going for his shots when the conservative strangle and probe of weaknesses would have yielded better results.</p> -
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<p>Me too - was frantically refreshing Cricinfo and not finding it...</p>
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<p>I'm sure someone on here was talking about Friday as the start of the next test - as it was in my head as well</p>
