NRL 2020
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:
@canefan i watched their Q-Cup team a few times up here, and they are fun to watch.
And i have a lot of sympathy for the attitude that if we are going to lose, lets at least entertain. Give me a reason to turn it on.
I still think a hard task master needs to come in and set some standards. For too long we looked under-prepared. They don't need to be a yeller, just set a high bar, and get the players to that level.
But, this is all guess work from the outside. What we can't do is the same thing we have done forever.
From what I read Walker is very professional and will drum the basics into the team, is that your assessment? I don't see why you can't play hard, do the basics and have fun
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@canefan Toovey has a solid record, but he had the team Hasler built to work with.
He has come out in the media and says he would like to do it if asked. I just think we've tried a number of established coaches and we've not done great. Ivan has the best playoff appearance record of any Warriors coach (not sure about W-L), he was understated, quiet, instilled a lot of trust in his players and tried to get a balance between the percentage play of Kearney and the razzle dazzle of the great Warriors teams. I reckon roll the dice on a guy who is ambitious and is desperate to prove himself at NRL level. Walker was passed over by the Titans, he will be gasping to prove everyone wrong
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:
Top ten fullbacks?
crowded field
Some greats in the 90s (Belcher, Brasher, ET, even Dale Shearer)
Minnichelo, Matty Bowen, Lockyer as a FB was a jet, Jaryd Hayne got Parra to a GF by himself, Slater is the best i have seen, Tedesco is awesome and getting better, Tommy Turbo, Brett Stewart,
and that's just the ones i can name off the top of my head.
Man those names takes you back, late 80’s early 90s was a great time. NRL was something new and cool here in NZ
You had that and the WWF, Friday nights were sweet back then.Dale Shearer was one of those guys who generally saved his best for Origin tho.
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@canefan Yeah, I saw Toovey's interview on the news last night. I'm not sure what he is as a coach, but Manly players seemed to like his coaching style. It was obvious that he lived off of the team Hasler built a bit too much though and didn't have a plan to build his own once the star players got older.
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@Dice The Walkers built Ipswich from the ground up. That is the type of coach we need
Unfortunately they wont be able to do that with the Warriors. Cameron George, the supposed saviour will still be there, and they'll inherit a squad. But hopefully (if they were brought in) they can do a Rennie and come into that environment, make some adjustments and have success.
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:
yes the roster is dogshit, but Kearney has been there for 3.5 years, so it's all his.
He's been a head coach for 121 first grade games. He has won 42 of those. This should not be a shock to anyone
Fake news. Show me those 42...
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@Dice The Walkers built Ipswich from the ground up. That is the type of coach we need
Unfortunately they wont be able to do that with the Warriors. Cameron George, the supposed saviour will still be there, and they'll inherit a squad. But hopefully (if they were brought in) they can do a Rennie and come into that environment, make some adjustments and have success.
Apparently they intend to focus on youth development in future, so its perfect. And if Walker doesn't need expensive signings to get success that will suit the owner
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As long as its not Graeme Lowe.
We need someone with experience, and a record of being able to build teams, and then the ability (and succession plan) to hand over to the next guy.The Melbourne Demons (AFL - obviously) grabbed Paul Roos, who had taken the Sydney Swans to two Grand Finals for 1x title, and consistently played the big finals. He left Melbourne with a top-8 side after three years, they made top-4. And then injuries completely derailed their 2019 season, jury out on 2020.
Thats what the Warriors need - a Paul Roos type.
Wayne Bennett too old.
Bellamy would be the man, with someone like Craig Fitzgibbon (considered to be the next good coach) as his successor... except we'd never get Bellamy.Is Kevin Walters an option? was supposed to get the Broncos job, but they flip-flopped and got Seibold (I think thats his name) - or is he just a QLD coach, who had a bunch of talent at his disposal until he didn't
How about that former Knights coach Michael Hagan? with Stacey Jones to be the successor in three years.
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I'm starting to be convinced that no league journos in Australia actually watch the Warriors, and haven't in about 10 years.
Paul Kent had a rant last night about the direction, and look at this fucking quote
“The Warriors are a side that don’t defend mistakes. So they play great football and pop a pass, but they don’t handle adversity well and that’s the problem."
He's right about adversity, but playing great football? When was the last time that was the case? It's the same things over and over. The big Warriors forwards. And playing great ad-lib football. Neither have been true for fucking years.
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:
I'm starting to be convinced that no league journos in Australia actually watch the Warriors, and haven't in about 10 years.
Paul Kent had a rant last night about the direction, and look at this fucking quote
“The Warriors are a side that don’t defend mistakes. So they play great football and pop a pass, but they don’t handle adversity well and that’s the problem."
He's right about adversity, but playing great football? When was the last time that was the case? It's the same things over and over. The big Warriors forwards. And playing great ad-lib football. Neither have been true for fucking years.
Probably back when Ali Lauatiti, Clinton Toopi and Kevin Campion were all running round at the same time.
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So the Aussie media are trying to link us to Wayne Bennett. Fuck that. If we hire that roster wrecking dinosaur i am out. That would be the last straw.
His assistant at Souths, the guy earmarked to take over, would be a fucking good shout. He started up here with the Pride, and won us the national club comp, by all accounts he's an absolute gun.
How the fuck does a 71-year old who is 15 years out of date still get earmarked for every single fucking job in the NRL? Clubs are so stupid.
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@Paekakboyz said in NRL 2020:
and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!
Kearney's family remained in Qld while he coached the Warriors so no need to return "home".
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@Paekakboyz said in NRL 2020:
and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!
Kearney's family remained in Qld while he coached the Warriors so no need to return "home".
he's off to be a scaffie on the Gold Coast
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He'll do OK.
The Warriors' shock axing of coach Stephen Kearney will come at a massive financial cost. The Daily Telegraph in Sydney has reported the Auckland-based NRL club might have to fork out $2 million to pay-out Kearney, who had more than two years remaining on his contract, though Stuff understands the figure could be closer to $1.6 million. -
so between $50,000 and $62,500 per win achieved, just to not coach us any more.
I need to suck at my job harder
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And in a continuation of my "why the fuck does Wayne Bennett still get jobs" campaign
With a fucking good roster, he has the Bunnies at a super impressive 3-4.
Those wins? Us, the Gold Coast, and Cronulla. 3 of the probably bottom four.
And then the surly old bastard comes out for an 88-word, 80-second press conference.
"Super Coach" my ass
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:
so between $50,000 and $62,500 per win achieved, just to not coach us any more.
I need to suck at my job harder
They're paying him somewhere around $800K per year? To do a job with, to be very harsh, a minuscule chance of success? Toughest part of the job is fronting up once a week to explain why you suck at your job and the cliched scripts for that are readily available.
No wonder Geoff Toovey has put put his hand up (though it might be better described as hand out) for the job.
$800K? Come on! That's ridiculous!
