NPC v Super Rugby
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@Stargazer No decision has been made about the July tests and RC either, at least that have been made public. You can bet the respective unions are having regular discussions about the different scenarios but it is such a fluid situation that will be unique to each country, so they can't make any plans.
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@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Stargazer said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo Yeah, nah.
If this scenario would happen, I'd boycot all games and rather watch the replays on my MySky.
But that doesn't matter. In a time with no sport, only a small % would be like you. Everyone else would be hanging out for something to watch.
Its worth an email to NZRU a an option, I think. (Have too much time on my hands obviously)
I’m busy at work at the moment (stupid CV making me having to work harder), but once done I’m going to email NZR saying not to trust letters from dudes named Hooro.
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@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing) or it isn't safe and there shouldn't be any rugby at all. I don't think there will be something in between.
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@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing)
Revenue. I can't see how the Championship adds any.
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@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing)
Revenue. I can't see how the Championship adds any.
I think it will add plenty in 2020 with people struggling for live sport. There will be no other local sport on. Maybe overseas sport will have started again, maybe not. If it was just the Premiership then you only have an 8 week competition when it could be twice as long and deliver more revenue.
SKY have nothing on so would love to be able to have NPC on 4 days a week.
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@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing)
Revenue. I can't see how the Championship adds any.
Paying Sky customers from those 7 provinces would disagree. There will be many on here who wouldn't bother watching if their team wasn't involved.
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@Bovidae said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing)
Revenue. I can't see how the Championship adds any.
Paying Sky customers from those 7 provinces would disagree. There will be many on here who wouldn't bother watching if their team wasn't involved.
Presumably those people watch anyway and yet it costs the NZR to run the comp.
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given the announcement made a few days ago, if we see any rugby this year, I expect it wil be the same teams involved in the NPC last year, but hopefully with the additon of ABs.
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@taniwharugby said in NPC v Super Rugby:
given the announcement made a few days ago, if we see any rugby this year, I expect it wil be the same teams involved in the NPC last year, but hopefully with the additon of ABs.
so Northland would be even further behind?
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@mariner4life you know what, if I get to see my team run around later this year, with our solitary AB, I'l be stoked, we had a great season last time he was involved, so who knows...
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@taniwharugby wait, Northland has an AB? I didn't even know they had Super Rugby players?
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@mariner4life yeah mate, he's decent too...I think we have a few supe rplayers too, but super rugby was so long ago, I cant really merember good
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@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Bovidae said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing)
Revenue. I can't see how the Championship adds any.
Paying Sky customers from those 7 provinces would disagree. There will be many on here who wouldn't bother watching if their team wasn't involved.
Presumably those people watch anyway and yet it costs the NZR to run the comp.
And what is NZR going to do to the players with contracts who aren't playing? If you play for Northland/Southland will you just not get paid? What happens to those unions? Can the NZRU afford to bail them out? Probably not.
They will lose money anyway. Having some form of NPC will just be a way to recoup those losses. It's much easier to cancel the Heartland Championship which is completely amateur.
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@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Bovidae said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@antipodean said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@hydro11 said in NPC v Super Rugby:
@Hooroo said in NPC v Super Rugby:
If the NPC did start, I would keep it smaller and just restrict it to the Premiership teams and keep the Championship teams out of it. That would create less travel and onus on the actual NPC costs and you would still get a great TV viewership.
I don't think that is an option. It's either safe to have the competition (and if it is why not have the full thing)
Revenue. I can't see how the Championship adds any.
Paying Sky customers from those 7 provinces would disagree. There will be many on here who wouldn't bother watching if their team wasn't involved.
Presumably those people watch anyway and yet it costs the NZR to run the comp.
And what is NZR going to do to the players with contracts who aren't playing? If you play for Northland/Southland will you just not get paid? What happens to those unions? Can the NZRU afford to bail them out? Probably not.
They will lose money anyway. Having some form of NPC will just be a way to recoup those losses. It's much easier to cancel the Heartland Championship which is completely amateur.
I'm sure that the NZR is doing the sums. At some point if running the competition costs more that not with all the associated benefits and detriments, they'll make their decision accordingly. Saying "we're losing money anyway" is not conducive to running a business.
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The Championship is part of the professional NPC, so all unions should be included somehow for their financial sakes if nothing else, but it might just be as a first and second division for this year followed by a promotion-relegation match after the finals. Could run that comp in 10 weeks - 7 rounds, Semi-Finals, Finals, promotion-relegations. If it needs to be even shorter, run 3 divisions based on last year's standings (2 of 5 teams, 1 of 4). If it's that or nothing, I'm sure everyone will be on board for this year.
SA are clamping down even harder than NZ on Covid, so we might be able to run a tri-nations at EOY (noting that SA is rather warm...) and 3 country Super again next year, maybe just go back to 12 teams.
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@Godder said in NPC v Super Rugby:
The Championship is part of the professional NPC, so all unions should be included somehow for their financial sakes if nothing else, but it might just be as a first and second division for this year followed by a promotion-relegation match after the finals. Could run that comp in 10 weeks - 7 rounds, Semi-Finals, Finals, promotion-relegations. If it needs to be even shorter, run 3 divisions based on last year's standings (2 of 5 teams, 1 of 4). If it's that or nothing, I'm sure everyone will be on board for this year.
SA are clamping down even harder than NZ on Covid, so we might be able to run a tri-nations at EOY (noting that SA is rather warm...) and 3 country Super again next year, maybe just go back to 12 teams.
I'm not sure why it needs to be shorter though. Overseas travel is probably gone for 18 months. We only need 3 months to run Mitre Ten Cup as it is, 4 months to run a full round robin. Start the season in October and end it in December if you have to. At best you are looking at games versus Australia/Australian teams.
