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@Baron-Silas-Greenback Hahaha. You're so arrogant that it blinds you. Can't wait for your lot to be relegated straight back to the Championship this year.
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@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback Hahaha. You're so arrogant that it blinds you. Can't wait for your lot to be relegated straight back to the Championship this year.
Wait ... what? That seems a bit rude and bitter of you. I was just offering some sage advice and facts.
Sheesh.
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considering they apparently have a plethora of players who should be starting in Super Rugby, i really am shocked that Hawkes are in the 2nd division. Seems like underachievement
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@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
considering they apparently have a plethora of players who should be starting in Super Rugby, i really am shocked that Hawkes are in the 2nd division. Seems like underachievement
You two are like 18 year olds in the pub for the first time, just making a pig of yourselves before the inevitable hoisting out.
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@Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
considering they apparently have a plethora of players who should be starting in Super Rugby, i really am shocked that Hawkes are in the 2nd division. Seems like underachievement
You two are like 18 year olds in the pub for the first time, just making a pig of yourselves before the inevitable hoisting out.
shut it Waikato, you're irrelevant
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@Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
considering they apparently have a plethora of players who should be starting in Super Rugby, i really am shocked that Hawkes are in the 2nd division. Seems like underachievement
You two are like 18 year olds in the pub for the first time, just making a pig of yourselves before the inevitable hoisting out.
Yeah... but those were the days aye
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
considering they apparently have a plethora of players who should be starting in Super Rugby, i really am shocked that Hawkes are in the 2nd division. Seems like underachievement
You two are like 18 year olds in the pub for the first time, just making a pig of yourselves before the inevitable hoisting out.
Yeah... but those were the days aye
Aren't we the same age? We had to "wait" until we were twenty. Much more mature...….
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@Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@mariner4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
considering they apparently have a plethora of players who should be starting in Super Rugby, i really am shocked that Hawkes are in the 2nd division. Seems like underachievement
You two are like 18 year olds in the pub for the first time, just making a pig of yourselves before the inevitable hoisting out.
Yeah... but those were the days aye
Aren't we the same age? We had to "wait" until we were twenty. Much more mature...….
Dunno... was so long ago. So long ago that Hawkes were pretty relevant back then...by being part of the central vikings.. but still relevant.
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@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Last Saturday, Waikato won the Chiefs Country Centurion Cup. They beat Bay of Plenty 35 - 5.
38-5 (HT: 17-0). I watched the game. Waikato scored 3 tries in the last 10 mins (including the last to Waikato legend Shaun Stevenson
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CHANGES TO 2020 REPRESENTATIVE RUGBY
To help secure the future of the sport, New Zealand Rugby (NZR) and Provincial Unions have today cancelled all provincial representative rugby tournaments including the 2020 Mitre 10 Heartland Championship.
The cancellations include the Meads Cup and Lochore Cup (Heartland Championship), Jock Hobbs Memorial National Under 19 Tournament, TECT National Sevens Tournament and all Provincial Union representative rugby tournaments below the Mitre 10 Cup and Farah Palmer Cup.
NZR Chief Executive Mark Robinson said rugby had worked together to make these difficult decisions for the best interests of the game.
“We’ve worked together and the Provincial Unions have led the decision making. This is a partnership and I acknowledge them for being willing to have these conversations and make tough decisions.
“It’s surreal how much this has impacted everyone in just seven days and we’ve needed to act swiftly, decisively and together. We are united in what we want to achieve and that’s to secure the future of rugby. These decisions have all been about ensuring when the time comes our communities can be up and running club, community and school rugby as quickly as possible.”
Robinson said NZR supported the decision led by the Heartland unions to cancel the Mitre 10 Heartland Championship for the 2020 season.
“It’s a blow for the Heartland Unions to lose their much-loved championships. Their top-level teams are the pride of their communities and it was a courageous decision by them in difficult times. The cancellation in 2020 will be a loss for local players and fans. It will no doubt be felt keenly by many.”
Ngati Porou East Coast CEO Cushla Tangaere-Manuel said the decisions were based on the greater good for rugby.
“While we are very disappointed that these tournaments won’t happen this year, but we want rugby to keep thriving long after lockdown is lifted and our communities are safe to play our game. Our three priorities in Heartland regions are our people, our clubs, then representative rugby, including the Heartland Championship. We understand these are the aspirational teams in our Unions but we’re confident making these decisions now will safeguard our game.”
Robinson said all the cancellations announced today affect the 2020 season only, and no decisions beyond this year had been made. He added no decisions about the Mitre 10 Cup or Farah Palmer Cup have been made at this stage either.
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WELCOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS North Harbour Rugby welcomes new board members Mike Bishop and Robert Colhoun, who were elected as Appointed Directors after the recent AGM held last week. Congratulations on your appointments. It is also a timely opportunity to thank our outgoing board members, Martin Cooper and Matt France. Thank you for your services and support for North Harbour Rugby over the years. #harbOURPEOPLE #harbOURCOMUNITYMike Bishop is the former CEO of the Hawke's Bay RU.
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Some news i picked up a couple of days back ,
To be honest I find this really disappointing and it displays everything that is wrong with NZ rugby..no disrespect to the union in question
Ta$man were negotiating with both Sevu Reece & Mark Telea before the Covid19 went down, this from a very good source..
As we know, both Harbour & Waikato are in financial strife as are a few unions will be once we come out of Covid19 lockdown
Given that Ta$man has a very good crop of outside backs , I find it amazing , not to mention they seem to be doing a great job developing players within their region bar the odd one or 2 that have come into the region..I truly am staggered if that was going to be their intention.I know chatting to the Northland CEO Cam Bell last week, he mentioned off the record ,it would be great in a perfect world that if all the unions would work together to see the holistic picture that having a more even competitive competition that re engages the rugby public would be a great way kickstart the game
his suggestions was a draft , where the lower ranked teams could pick up a player from a bigger centre or in fact any other union who was surplus to requirements, but there are some unions that would rather have all the cards stacked in their favour and win a title playing in front of nobody.
NZ rugby needs a competitive competition from Mitre 10 cup level In my opinion that will bring crowds back that are engaging and tribal.
How good has it been viewing many of the old Air NZ NPC games..?
My personal favourite being the 2001 Northland v Auckland game at Eden Park,Auckland with team laden with All Blacks, Northland with some hero’s of their own and guy by the name of Rupeni Caucaunibuca.The NZRFU has increased the number of staff incrementally in the last 7 years by 80%..seems crazy when the lower levels of your game has been totally ignored..I have always said, I have never been overly concerned about All Black Rugby or Super Rugby, but when the house of cards eventually falls over, it will be the lower level that suffers the most..
So it’s quite an irony talking to a good friend who coaches in the North Harbour comp, that already he has had calls from Super Rugby players that hanging out to play club rugby no matter what the directive from the establishment is saying . -
@Steven-Harris I've never thought a draft would work in NZ.
These guys at the bottom of the chain dont get paid enough for it to be workable IMO.
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@Steven-Harris said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Some news i picked up a couple of days back ,
To be honest I find this really disappointing and it displays everything that is wrong with NZ rugby..no disrespect to the union in question
Ta$man were negotiating with both Sevu Reece & Mark Telea before the Covid19 went down, this from a very good source..
As we know, both Harbour & Waikato are in financial strife as are a few unions will be once we come out of Covid19 lockdown
Given that Ta$man has a very good crop of outside backs , I find it amazing , not to mention they seem to be doing a great job developing players within their region bar the odd one or 2 that have come into the region..I truly am staggered if that was going to be their intention.I know chatting to the Northland CEO Cam Bell last week, he mentioned off the record ,it would be great in a perfect world that if all the unions would work together to see the holistic picture that having a more even competitive competition that re engages the rugby public would be a great way kickstart the game
his suggestions was a draft , where the lower ranked teams could pick up a player from a bigger centre or in fact any other union who was surplus to requirements, but there are some unions that would rather have all the cards stacked in their favour and win a title playing in front of nobody.
NZ rugby needs a competitive competition from Mitre 10 cup level In my opinion that will bring crowds back that are engaging and tribal.
How good has it been viewing many of the old Air NZ NPC games..?
My personal favourite being the 2001 Northland v Auckland game at Eden Park,Auckland with team laden with All Blacks, Northland with some hero’s of their own and guy by the name of Rupeni Caucaunibuca.The NZRFU has increased the number of staff incrementally in the last 7 years by 80%..seems crazy when the lower levels of your game has been totally ignored..I have always said, I have never been overly concerned about All Black Rugby or Super Rugby, but when the house of cards eventually falls over, it will be the lower level that suffers the most..
So it’s quite an irony talking to a good friend who coaches in the North Harbour comp, that already he has had calls from Super Rugby players that hanging out to play club rugby no matter what the directive from the establishment is saying .Who are the sides who have players of such high quality they'd make a difference to a Northland or Southland, that aren't getting games? Sorry, I'm unsure where the Northland CEO's quote ends.
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@taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Steven-Harris I've never thought a draft would work in NZ.
These guys at the bottom of the chain dont get paid enough for it to be workable IMO.
Players would rebel against a draft. No one wants to be drafted to places outside of the main centres pulling their families away from family support and friends, not to mention job opportunities.
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@Crucial said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Steven-Harris I've never thought a draft would work in NZ.
These guys at the bottom of the chain dont get paid enough for it to be workable IMO.
Players would rebel against a draft. No one wants to be drafted to places outside of the main centres pulling their families away from family support and friends, not to mention job opportunities.
NZ is not USA where multi-million dollar salaries can make up for basic family needs.Bang on. Many have moved to a city because it's a SR base to avoid that kind of uprooting. Why would they want to go to Whangarei for three months for no more money?
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@Crucial we are not talking about someone who’s already been selected by respective province, but more in and around a player who is in a Dev squad or not entirely happy who much be in their 2nd year of a contract and wants out..or would be just continue with the status quo and watch deteriorate further..
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@shark said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Steven-Harris said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Some news i picked up a couple of days back ,
To be honest I find this really disappointing and it displays everything that is wrong with NZ rugby..no disrespect to the union in question
Ta$man were negotiating with both Sevu Reece & Mark Telea before the Covid19 went down, this from a very good source..
As we know, both Harbour & Waikato are in financial strife as are a few unions will be once we come out of Covid19 lockdown
Given that Ta$man has a very good crop of outside backs , I find it amazing , not to mention they seem to be doing a great job developing players within their region bar the odd one or 2 that have come into the region..I truly am staggered if that was going to be their intention.I know chatting to the Northland CEO Cam Bell last week, he mentioned off the record ,it would be great in a perfect world that if all the unions would work together to see the holistic picture that having a more even competitive competition that re engages the rugby public would be a great way kickstart the game
his suggestions was a draft , where the lower ranked teams could pick up a player from a bigger centre or in fact any other union who was surplus to requirements, but there are some unions that would rather have all the cards stacked in their favour and win a title playing in front of nobody.
NZ rugby needs a competitive competition from Mitre 10 cup level In my opinion that will bring crowds back that are engaging and tribal.
How good has it been viewing many of the old Air NZ NPC games..?
My personal favourite being the 2001 Northland v Auckland game at Eden Park,Auckland with team laden with All Blacks, Northland with some hero’s of their own and guy by the name of Rupeni Caucaunibuca.The NZRFU has increased the number of staff incrementally in the last 7 years by 80%..seems crazy when the lower levels of your game has been totally ignored..I have always said, I have never been overly concerned about All Black Rugby or Super Rugby, but when the house of cards eventually falls over, it will be the lower level that suffers the most..
So it’s quite an irony talking to a good friend who coaches in the North Harbour comp, that already he has had calls from Super Rugby players that hanging out to play club rugby no matter what the directive from the establishment is saying .Who are the sides who have players of such high quality they'd make a difference to a Northland or Southland, that aren't getting games?
It's not that they are sitting on benches, more that they are stacking places 1-15.
I agree with the concept of trying for a more even comp but can't see how it would work in NZ. Plus, tribalism either comes from brand loyalty (kind of there with Super franchises) or from home town support (the guys you watched grow up/played with at school etc). I can't see how shuffling everyone around helps that at all and just creates more mercenaries.
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@Crucial, so your happy with that status quo at the minute..?
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@Steven-Harris dont think they are one in the same.
Status Quo might not be working, but I also dont think a draft system is workable either, it'd be change for changes sake while knowing the result will be a failure.
