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@NTA said in Google wifi:
@Crucial said in Google wifi:
Then one day you might even get decent broadband to make use of it.
That ship has sailed. Though if that lottery win comes in, I'll get fibre pulled through for the whole street
One day Australia will wake up and realise that poor decisions have led to being left behind in the world. Different tech should then enable a re-think.
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@Crucial said in Google wifi:
@NTA said in Google wifi:
@Crucial said in Google wifi:
Then one day you might even get decent broadband to make use of it.
That ship has sailed. Though if that lottery win comes in, I'll get fibre pulled through for the whole street
One day Australia will wake up and realise that poor decisions have led to being left behind in the world. Different tech should then enable a re-think.
That would probably require voting in a government that isn't LNP and I don't see that happening in the current circumstances.
I'm waiting for Elon Musk's satellites to save me (this is about as valid as the nation waking up).
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@Crucial said in Google wifi:
Not to wind you up, but to show how good the mesh system is, I am on a 100 plan and can pull through 90+ consistently throughout the house on wifi
Nice. The brother in law is living in a place that also has VDSL about 5km from me, and he regularly gets 90mbps at the modem. So it isn't all bad, just that I lost Node Lotto
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@NTA said in Google wifi:
@Crucial said in Google wifi:
@NTA said in Google wifi:
@Crucial said in Google wifi:
Then one day you might even get decent broadband to make use of it.
That ship has sailed. Though if that lottery win comes in, I'll get fibre pulled through for the whole street
One day Australia will wake up and realise that poor decisions have led to being left behind in the world. Different tech should then enable a re-think.
That would probably require voting in a government that isn't LNP and I don't see that happening in the current circumstances.
I'm waiting for Elon Musk's satellites to save me (this is about as valid as the nation waking up).
Even 4G wireless will get you 28ish although the lag is a bit shit and upload even worse
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@Crucial cost is fucking outrageous for the data you get. I need unlimited because the fucking boy and his fucking playstation.
Oh and I live in an area where 4G is kind of shit - recently one tower went down and pop! That was it for mobile reception.
Infrastructure plan and spend is not a strength of any of these shunts.
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@voodoo said in Google wifi:
I pay for 25/5 on our new NBN and typically get 18/3. Never seen it get above 20. That's metro Sydney, good old Toby Abbott's hood.
I pay for 50/20 because our provider doesn't offer 25/5 any more - just so I have the privilege of getting 26/7
Less than 10 year old neighbourhood with fibre 100/40 estates within 300m.
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@NTA said in Google wifi:
@voodoo said in Google wifi:
I pay for 25/5 on our new NBN and typically get 18/3. Never seen it get above 20. That's metro Sydney, good old Toby Abbott's hood.
I pay for 50/20 because our provider doesn't offer 25/5 any more - just so I have the privilege of getting 26/7
Less than 10 year old neighbourhood with fibre 100/40 estates within 300m.
26 is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Quite ample for most things just don’t expect to be hammering it throughout the house
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@Crucial said in Google wifi:
@NTA said in Google wifi:
@voodoo said in Google wifi:
I pay for 25/5 on our new NBN and typically get 18/3. Never seen it get above 20. That's metro Sydney, good old Toby Abbott's hood.
I pay for 50/20 because our provider doesn't offer 25/5 any more - just so I have the privilege of getting 26/7
Less than 10 year old neighbourhood with fibre 100/40 estates within 300m.
26 is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Quite ample for most things just don’t expect to be hammering it throughout the house
Beats the shit out of the 7/3 I got on ADSL2 at the same location.
For me it is fine working from home.
For a family of 4 trying to work/school from home it takes a bit of juggling if everyone is trying to videocon (Zoom x 2 + Teams + Hangouts) and work in the cloud.
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Boast time...
Got really lucky when my wife and I moved home 3 and 1/2 years ago. We moved from Wahroonga in Sydney's upper north shore where the ADSL2+ was usually in the 8-9 Mbps range.
We moved into a newly built apartment in North Sydney. We have Fibre to the Premises (FTTP), it literally terminates in the spare bedroom wardrobe. Even better, when we moved, the local Telstra shop offered a boost to the highest speed for free, so the 100/40 and unlimited data.
We also got the base Foxtel package and IQ3 included for the low price of $100/month. The package we are on isn't even offered any more.
Swooped on that offer, immediately went out and purchased a 4K TV and have been loving life ever since.
I've done a number of tests over the years and our speed rarely gets below 95 Mbps, and quite often reached speeds over 100 Mbps.
Even with what seems like 90% of the Australian workforce now WFH, the speed hasn't been noticeably affected, even in peak hours. Very impressed. Averaging around 60 - 80 Mbps in peak.
The sad thing I know is that our experience with the NBN (and Telstra for that matter) is very rare and we are lucky. Most people rightly complain about it and have bad experiences. I've friends who have pulled their hair out and gone completely mad trying to deal with the NBN. Worse, a good mate had Telstra Cable, loved it and was getting amazing speeds. When NBN moved into his neighbourhood, he was forced to move and now gets only 20 Mbps or less. He's so pissed!
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Man, Australia really is 3rd world when it comes to this kind of infrastructure isn't it. I consistently get >500mps even sitting outside in the garden with a cold beer.
Fibre roll out is the one example of successive NZ govt's getting their shit together to deliver a decent infrastructure project.
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@dogmeat said in Google wifi:
Man, Australia really is 3rd world when it comes to this kind of infrastructure isn't it. I consistently get >500mps even sitting outside in the garden with a cold beer.
Fibre roll out is the one example of successive NZ govt's getting their shit together to deliver a decent infrastructure project.
Yeah, we were pretty close on that. And then the conservatives got into power and had to follow through on their promise to fuck up everything the previous idiots proposed.
This is a clip from 2011. Mark Pesce is as a futurist, and while that title would ordinarily make my eyes roll I've engaged with him on a few platforms and he's more of a bloke with his finger on the pulse.
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@dogmeat said in Google wifi:
Man, Australia really is 3rd world when it comes to this kind of infrastructure isn't it. I consistently get >500mps even sitting outside in the garden with a cold beer.
Fibre roll out is the one example of successive NZ govt's getting their shit together to deliver a decent infrastructure project.
The benefit of seeing what Australia did and not making the same mistakes.
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@NTA said in Google wifi:
@dogmeat said in Google wifi:
Man, Australia really is 3rd world when it comes to this kind of infrastructure isn't it. I consistently get >500mps even sitting outside in the garden with a cold beer.
Fibre roll out is the one example of successive NZ govt's getting their shit together to deliver a decent infrastructure project.
Yeah, we were pretty close on that. And then the conservatives got into power and had to follow through on their promise to fuck up everything the previous idiots proposed.
This is a clip from 2011. Mark Pesce is as a futurist, and while that title would ordinarily make my eyes roll I've engaged with him on a few platforms and he's more of a bloke with his finger on the pulse.
The last comment by Turnbull in that vid is all that is needed to understand why you are falling behind.
“We should only be building what we need now and can currently see in the future”
The NZ approach was “let’s overbuild this on current needs as the possibilities are endless and currently not even imagined”
As one of you are aware I worked for Chorus during the fibre rollout and we openly said at work that we couldn’t even imagine what Gigafibre would be used for at capacity in households yet here we are 5 years after that with Gig being available in areas and snapped up by some people. -
@NTA First time I've seen that and damn, it made my blood boil.
That smug sanctimonious condescending prick!
Christ I'm angry at that and at least Mark has the last laugh as most Aussies are now crying over the Abbott and Turnbull mess they made of the NBN.
Christ I'm pissed!!!
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@RoninWC said in Google wifi:
@NTA First time I've seen that and damn, it made my blood boil.
That smug sanctimonious condescending prick!
Christ I'm angry at that and at least Mark has the last laugh as most Aussies are now crying over the Abbott and Turnbull mess they made of the NBN.
Christ I'm pissed!!!
The best bit is yet to come. It has to be sold. Won't recoup the money "invested" in the construction and a sizeable part of it has to be redone. Not just the technology mix either, but kilometres of fibre which wasn't laid correctly so is degrading.
The whole thing is a bipartisan cockup of magnificent proportions.
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@antipodean said in Google wifi:
@RoninWC said in Google wifi:
@NTA First time I've seen that and damn, it made my blood boil.
That smug sanctimonious condescending prick!
Christ I'm angry at that and at least Mark has the last laugh as most Aussies are now crying over the Abbott and Turnbull mess they made of the NBN.
Christ I'm pissed!!!
The best bit is yet to come. It has to be sold. Won't recoup the money "invested" in the construction and a sizeable part of it has to be redone. Not just the technology mix either, but kilometres of fibre which wasn't laid correctly so is degrading.
The whole thing is a bipartisan cockup of magnificent proportions.
And a failure by both parties to identify internet as a utility, not a service.
Really you have to look at the history of privatisation in this country and wonder why the fuck we haven't learned anything about mitigating the worst of it.
$50B for a FTTP network is looking like a bargain.