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@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
edit: Otherside meaning herd immunity..not the other thing..though some of that too
Yeah, seen a few articles on how relaxing the restrictions and managing further mini-outbreaks is going to be the key bit until a vaccine is available in 18 months time.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
edit: Otherside meaning herd immunity..not the other thing..though some of that too
Yeah, seen a few articles on how relaxing the restrictions and managing further mini-outbreaks is going to be the key bit until a vaccine is available in 18 months time.
yeah- cheap plentiful testing is going to be really really key in managing that as we move through this
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@barbarian Sorry for you and the missus, must be tough as so much energy and time goes into it, but the Rona helps put things in perspective, and that is having family, friends and loved ones alive is more important.
Edit: I assume it's a missus, my apologies if it's a Mr Barbarian.
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@barbarian Sorry for you and the missus, must be tough as so much energy and time goes into it, but the Rona helps put things in perspective, and that is having family, friends and loved ones alive is more important.
Edit: I assume it's a missus, my apologies if it's a Mr Barbarian.
Very true. Yes I can confirm its a Mrs Barbarian, who currently identifies as cisgender and prefers she/her pronouns.
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Just read some Bondi based backpackers have tested positive....
Let's hope they weren't on the beach
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The relatively encouraging figure is of 669 virus cases in NSW, only 65 are 'locally acquired', eg picked up without being overseas or in close contact of a confirmed case.
So the chances of you picking it up from the train, or general life around town are still relatively slim.
I think the authorities are betting on the border closure to stamp out most of the 'imported cases', and the gathering ban to halt community transmission.
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@barbarian would that stat be skewed by them targeting travelers with their testing though? The feeling over here in NZ is that they've just been testing people returning home so the community outbreaks are going unnoticed.
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UK's shielding announcement on those most at risk being asked to quarantine for 12 weeks.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19Worth a read and worth considering Australia is about 1 week behind the UK and NZ about 2 weeks behind Australia.
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@barbarian would that stat be skewed by them targeting travelers with their testing though? The feeling over here in NZ is that they've just been testing people returning home so the community outbreaks are going unnoticed.
We've done a shitload of testing, more than most other jurisdictions. Over 100,000 tests IIRC.
It might be slightly skewed, of course, but even with that assumption it's still a reasonable figure.
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The key stat is not the number of cases, that just sells ads for the news media. The key metric is the number of people needing hospital treatment, and then deaths.
Would love the media to add a bit of nuance to their scare mongering.
If we had a 100,000 cases and only 100 people needing care then we would be fine. Where is our percentage at?
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
The key stat is not the number of cases, that just sells ads for the news media. The key metric is the number of people needing hospital treatment, and then deaths.
Would love the media to add a bit of nuance to their scare mongering.
If we had a 100,000 cases and only 100 people needing care then we would be fine. Where is our percentage at?
I agree with you. But part of me thinks it is not the time to make people feel more relaxed, based on the hordes of people out on the town last weekend, and others ignoring the advice to distance and isolate
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We are about to be a single income family. The Mrs runs a gym that will close at 12 pm today. We are all healthy and that's what matters. We have a chest freezer that is full to bursting. We haven't hoarded but we have added quite a bit to what we already had.
I'm not going to lie, I'm scared shitless. Work seemed to be really positive about our ability to work remotely and now there does not seem to be much point. We have savings and I will be requesting my Kiwisaver be paid out to some extent. I'm not prepared for 6 months of no income though. If that time frame proves accurate it's going to be dicey for me.
We are positive people and I'll push trolleys in the car park at Woollies if I have to. If that's what it takes to see this shitty situation through. I just hope it gets better fast.
Best of luck to all of you.
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From the Dept of Health:
As at 6.30am on 22 March 2020, there have been 1,098 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia. There have been 224 new cases since 6.30am yesterday.
Of the 1,098 confirmed cases in Australia, 7 have died from COVID-19. More than 127,000 tests have been conducted across Australia.
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So that would make the fatality rate ~0.6%
And a breakdown:
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Kirwan isn't only 1 of ours in hospital at present?
I don’t know, which is I guess the point.
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The obvious problem is the confirmed numbers are days behind the actual situation at best. Meanwhile the stock market opened to everyone shitting themselves given the government has effectively prevented almost all commerce in the country for the foreseeable future. Commsec reporting high trade volumes and their platform on pc and phone is pretty unresponsive.
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@Kirwan sorry yeah, totally agree.
Been speaking to a number of clients this morning, range of emotions from them about how they expect thier business to fare over the coming months.
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