Stadium of Canterbury
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Does anybody know how much of the cost is earthquake proofing?
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https://www.otakaroltd.co.nz/anchor-projects/stadium/
The pre-feasibility study is there. Turns out the main reason for a roof is because Canterbury Rugby wanted one although it will also help with concerts. Would be another $120 million or so for 30,000 permanent seats + temp seating. Not sure that will make any difference to getting tests - we're only ever going to get 1 per season because any spares will be in Auckland.
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The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
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@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
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@Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
You can see the future now though as it will be built as described and the demand for a ticket in the first few weeks will be high due to it being new and those that miss out will scream blue murder for not building a bigger stadium and then after a few weeks they won't sell out.
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@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
You can see the future now though as it will be built as described and the demand for a ticket in the first few weeks will be high due to it being new and those that miss out will scream blue murder for not building a bigger stadium and then after a few weeks they won't sell out.
And that's the thing. I go to the footy to see the game - and I don't give a passing thought to whether the stadium is cool or not. In the end you end up sitting in a plastic seat with fuck all leg room.
Might be a bit of a wild thought, but from what I've seen, one of the real growth areas is E-Sports. I saw some footage of some sort of World Championship of Fortnite and the place looked nearly sold out. Presumably a roof would be handy for those sorts of events.
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@nzzp said in Stadium of Canterbury:
this was interesting. Average 5 year attendance is 12,000. That includes finals games of course, that drag up the numbers.
And this is in an absolute dump of a facility, taking into account also the utter boring Smallbladder style we played through 2015 & 16.
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@Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
Have you been to Orange Theory stadium, especially at the time of year finals are played? Exposed all the way around the ground, exposed in the stands, view blocked by structural posts, the least space available I've ever encountered in any stadium seat, in your big jacket next to your mate in his big jacket?
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@shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
Have you been to Orange Theory stadium, especially at the time of year finals are played? Exposed all the way around the ground, exposed in the stands, view blocked by structural posts, the least space available I've ever encountered in any stadium seat, in your big jacket next to your mate in his big jacket?
Don't forget the temperature/wind chill and dewy/wet ground during night games (factors a covered stadium help solve).
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@shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
Have you been to Orange Theory stadium, especially at the time of year finals are played? Exposed all the way around the ground, exposed in the stands, view blocked by structural posts, the least space available I've ever encountered in any stadium seat, in your big jacket next to your mate in his big jacket?
Sounds though if it had a roof, it would have been perfect
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@shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
The more I think about it the more I think it's the right idea to have a boutique type of stadium. We have enough large stadiums in the country not being filled to capacity save for once a year if they get a test match. Sport attendance is on the wane rather than on the increase too.
That's a fair point, especially considering Crusaders fans stayed away from quarter and semi finals as well. If you don't sell those sorts of games out in a small ground, it does undercut the demand for a larger stadium.
Have you been to Orange Theory stadium, especially at the time of year finals are played? Exposed all the way around the ground, exposed in the stands, view blocked by structural posts, the least space available I've ever encountered in any stadium seat, in your big jacket next to your mate in his big jacket?
Maybe build a stadium with a roof?
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@shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@booboo Yes. And let's make it drastically under-sized, fit for fuck all and ugly as sin.
I'm not really understanding why you need a big stadium to sell out once a year. Less and less people are going to sporting events in NZ
