Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020
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@nzzp Yeah - it's quite a strange format.
We've got a good draw, missing both England and South Africa (though it would have been great in hindsight if that recent series vs England had counted).
If we win here, we'll have a win, a loss and a draw. But home series vs Pakistan and the Windies to come, and we'd be strong favourites in those - plus a winnable series in Bangladesh. Win all those series and we end up with 4 wins a draw and a loss.
India odds on to lose in Oz, plus losing to us is two losses.
England has a win vs SA and a draw with Oz, but still has to go to India and Sri Lanka.
Oz has two wins and a draw - home series vs India to come, plus away vs the Bangles and SA. I've got them as favourites to win all of those, but you never know.
On top of this is the vagaries of points accumulated in individual series, but I think the overall series won, drawn, lost is a decent indicator.
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Really great effort from the bowlers to keep us in the game, and amazingly even put us slightly ahead. If we can roll them in the first session then we get to bat in session two and three when it's generally a bit easier if the sun is shining.
With Boult, Southee, Wags and Jamieson there is some variety and no respite for the opposition. I don't think we can justify playing a spinner given we don't have any stand out performers in that discipline.
Bring on tomorrow - huge day in the context of this season and the world series.
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Really great effort from the bowlers to keep us in the game, and amazingly even put us slightly ahead. If we can roll them in the first session then we get to bat in session two and three when it's generally a bit easier if the sun is shining.
With Boult, Southee, Wags and Jamieson there is some variety and no respite for the opposition. I don't think we can justify playing a spinner given we don't have any stand out performers in that discipline.
Bring on tomorrow - huge day in the context of this season and the world series.
I don't see the point of a spinner on a deck like that either
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@Godder said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
A spinner would have to replace Southee (when he retires) or CdG, and that would be by outbatting and outbowling him - Santner couldn't do it, so it might be a long wait.
Who?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Godder said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
A spinner would have to replace Southee (when he retires) or CdG, and that would be by outbatting and outbowling him - Santner couldn't do it, so it might be a long wait.
Who?
Some guy who wasn't up to test cricket.
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16 wickets fall on a hard day 2 pitch after 2 days of fine weather?
No runs are guaranteed on this track.
Flashbacks of that paki game years ago, thank god no wasim or waqar.
Bowlers have been superb to a man and they're the reason we're all good at the moment.
Next 2 wickets are huge and hope to chase less than 180.
Whatever the chase I reckon a Rossco or Colin off the leash may be the defining innings'. Probably not a 4th innings wicket to scratch about on -
@Godder said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
A spinner would have to replace Southee (when he retires) or CdG, and that would be by outbatting and outbowling him - Santner couldn't do it, so it might be a long wait.
If Jamieson's batting is as good as its looked so far in his career then he can potentially take over de Grandhomme's allrounder spot, making it easier to fit in a spinner.
De Grandhomme has been bizzare in that he never quite looks like he belongs in test cricket when you watch him bowl gentle medium pace or swatting violently at bowlers, but yet his numbers show that he's been successful. Some padding against the minnows for sure but his bowling has been threatening against almost every team in most conditions.
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp Yeah - it's quite a strange format.
We've got a good draw, missing both England and South Africa (though it would have been great in hindsight if that recent series vs England had counted).
If we win here, we'll have a win, a loss and a draw. But home series vs Pakistan and the Windies to come, and we'd be strong favourites in those - plus a winnable series in Bangladesh. Win all those series and we end up with 4 wins a draw and a loss.
India odds on to lose in Oz, plus losing to us is two losses.
England has a win vs SA and a draw with Oz, but still has to go to India and Sri Lanka.
Oz has two wins and a draw - home series vs India to come, plus away vs the Bangles and SA. I've got them as favourites to win all of those, but you never know.
On top of this is the vagaries of points accumulated in individual series, but I think the overall series won, drawn, lost is a decent indicator.
I don't see how the Test Championship is any more meaningful than the world rankings when you throw in those sorts of anomalies. By rights, it should be less meaningful than being world number one.
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Godder said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
A spinner would have to replace Southee (when he retires) or CdG, and that would be by outbatting and outbowling him - Santner couldn't do it, so it might be a long wait.
If Jamieson's batting is as good as its looked so far in his career then he can potentially take over de Grandhomme's allrounder spot, making it easier to fit in a spinner.
De Grandhomme has been bizzare in that he never quite looks like he belongs in test cricket when you watch him bowl gentle medium pace or swatting violently at bowlers, but yet his numbers show that he's been successful. Some padding against the minnows for sure but his bowling has been threatening against almost every team in most conditions.
Even then, no spinners have been close to CdG in terms of stats. Would also like to see Jamieson score a century or two before I consider him ready to replace CdG.
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@hydro11 said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@nzzp Yeah - it's quite a strange format.
We've got a good draw, missing both England and South Africa (though it would have been great in hindsight if that recent series vs England had counted).
If we win here, we'll have a win, a loss and a draw. But home series vs Pakistan and the Windies to come, and we'd be strong favourites in those - plus a winnable series in Bangladesh. Win all those series and we end up with 4 wins a draw and a loss.
India odds on to lose in Oz, plus losing to us is two losses.
England has a win vs SA and a draw with Oz, but still has to go to India and Sri Lanka.
Oz has two wins and a draw - home series vs India to come, plus away vs the Bangles and SA. I've got them as favourites to win all of those, but you never know.
On top of this is the vagaries of points accumulated in individual series, but I think the overall series won, drawn, lost is a decent indicator.
I don't see how the Test Championship is any more meaningful than the world rankings when you throw in those sorts of anomalies. By rights, it should be less meaningful than being world number one.
world rankings don't apparently allow you to host a money making match somewhere and fly in the executive.
also, playing a final at Lords? You can get to No 1 by being India, and then have to play in foreign conditions. It's a boondoggle; Number 1 should host ...
