Aussie Pro Rugby
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@antipodean Yep, I find it quite interesting to watch the newbies, esp if I've been following some of them from the time they were still playing for their school's 1st XV.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
Personally the player drain also lessens my interest. And that problem is even worse in Australia.
I was talking about this on the weekend and my interest is slightly reinvigorated to see talented youngsters given an opportunity. Every now and then (which tends to be after a RWC), it's nice to see the driftwood removed from the competition.
i get that argument, and i think others like Stargazer love that about the comp now, because they follow these guys as they progress. I don't watch NPC rugby because often the times are shithouse in Qld, so i don't know who they are.
And unfortunately Super Rugby is now old enough to have "halcyon days" where it wasn't a development comp, it was the best NZ players condensed in to 5 teams.
Now? Rest. Retirement. Sabbaticals. Overseas contracts. It's half of the ABs, and a bunch of 2nd year pros.
There isn't a decent lock in the country. There isn't a decent blindside in the country. There isn't a decent #8 in the Country. And even if they stand out, who are they testing themselves against? Australian players? The Boks not playing in Europe? whoop de do.
You add that to the fact the Friday NZ game is finished before i get home from work on a Friday, and my care factor is slightly above "meh"
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Not quite, but the only ones I could find:
Fox Sports Responds To Reports About A Failed Broadcast Deal With Rugby Australia - Ministry of Sport
With several reports claiming that Fox Sports is set to end its 25-year broadcast history with Rugby Australia, Head of Fox Sports Peter Campbell has made a statement. Mr Campbell said […]
I reckon that's a rehash of News Corp sourced info. As per Barbarian's post, beware.
Don't get me wrong, the Foxtel ratings were still crappy. Just not as bad as claimed. Of the 7 games, 4 were watchable:
Blu v Chi 43k
Bru v Red 52k
Cru v War 66k
Sun v Reb 39kAverage there of somewhere around 50k.
Games in South Africa and Argentina don't rate (typically don't make the published ratings) and never have.
Sha v Bul n/a
Sto v Hur n/a
Jag v Lio n/aBut if you somehow wanted to count these, they'd drop the "average" for sure.
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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/kayo-streaming-cricket-2020-2
Not even the cricket is helping Foxtel/Kayo/News Corp
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@dK said in Aussie Rugby:
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/kayo-streaming-cricket-2020-2
Not even the cricket is helping Foxtel/Kayo/News Corp
we are in a dead spot, as the article says
Approximately 18 people in this country give even a solitary fuck about Super Rugby, and they are all Kiwi scaffolders on the Gold Coast. And they games they care about are kicking off at 4pm
The Aussie cricket summer was a procession, and ended ages ago.
The footy codes that people care about don't kick off for a fair while yet.
The Big Bash got too long and killed itself. And is on FTA.There is just no sport to watch.
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So who's going to win the Aussie conference? Yes the questions could be rephrased as 'who is slightly less crap'?
When I looked at the odds a few weeks ago I think the order was this:
Brumbies
Rebels
Waratahs
Reds
SunwolvesHas much changed?
The Brumbies probably are still favourites but they have really drifted in and out of games. The matches so far - Reds, Rebels & Highlanders.. all those matches have been in Canberra. They look really fragile.
The Rebels had an unbelievably high error rate for 120mins. Their second 120mins was ok. The one thing they have in their favour is they have the only proven 10 in Australia. Meeks is an underrated player too.
Tahs keep bumbling along. The Reds might find form when they finally play at home? I can't see the Sunwolves winning often enough to stay in touch
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The Brumbies will win the conference. They have the best pack, the most settled squad, and they are well coached. They won't set the world alight but they will win the games they need to, especially at home.
The Reds are the smokeys. The first half they played in Buenos Aires was electric, and with a few more 50/50 calls they would have won. They have a good young core and if they put it all together they could rack up wins in a hurry.
Tahs are rebuilding and won't get above 14th on the ladder. Rebels are too hot and cold to get above 12th. And the Sunwolves... your guess is as good as mine.
But for all the dross I'm actually enjoying watching our teams this year. Good young players finally given their shot. Like Harry Wilson at 8 for the Reds, Mark Nawaqanitawase on the wing for the Tahs, Noah Lolesio at 10 for the Brumbies.
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Two years in a row basically - the ones most important to his development too.
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Fairfax trying to rescue Australian rugby with two notable rugby devotees suggesting improvements:
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Fairfax trying to rescue Australian rugby with two notable rugby devotees suggesting improvements:
Same article that gets written every couple of years but change the names?
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That article by Matt Rowley hits the nail on the head: why stay in an abusive relationship?
Despite a lot of bullshit flying around, and my personal criticisms of RA in our recent troubles, it is pretty clear that Castle et al know that doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results, is insanity.
The product is worth fuck all right now, so why not take a risk? At worst, you end up a couple of games per week on Free To Air, and gasp expose your product to more people.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Fairfax trying to rescue Australian rugby with two notable rugby devotees suggesting improvements:
Same article that gets written every couple of years but change the names?
I thought it was a piss take article, jokingly changing the laws to be league. You can't out compete League/AFL by becoming more like League/AFL. It'll just be a shit version of said game.
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This headline from the Daily Telegraph. The rest of the article is behind a pay wall but doesn't sound good.
OPTUS TO LAND RUGBY RIGHTS IN DISASTROUS RA DEAL
Three weeks after putting their broadcast package to the open market, Rugby Australia has not had a single offer, leaving Optus to snap up the broadcast rights in a new low for the game. -
@Daffy-Jaffy from The Australian:
Optus is favoured to become the new home of rugby, but the final deal could be disastrous for the code if the telco low-balls Rugby Australia as expected. The Daily Telegraph can reveal that three weeks after putting their broadcast package to the open market, RA has not had a single offer. The lack of formal interest has forced them to extend their period for offers for another week. Initially, all contract questions were to cease by next Wednesday, after which prospective buyers would have to table offers. Late on Thursday, it was confirmed this would be pushed back another week. Current broadcast partners Fox Sports have not signed RA’s nondisclosure agreements and will not, leaving Optus as the lone digital option, despite Qatari network BeIN Sports and streaming service DAZN flouting interest. It can also be revealed that Optus has begun talks with production companies, who they will need to film and package Super Rugby, club rugby and women’s rugby games, given they do not have the capabilities to do this in-house. It’s estimated that these production costs will be around $10 million a year, and Optus will fold this into their offer to RA. Knowing Fox Sports is no longer in the mix, having already had a $40 million-a-year offer rejected by RA late last year, insiders expect Optus to come in with a dramatically lower figure given the lack of options. This would leave RA chief Raelene Castle in a major pickle. Castle has already promised the states a larger percentage of the broadcast deal, however if the only offer received is much lower than expected, franchises will find it tougher to compete with foreign rivals. Already, some inside club land are expressing frustration at the prolonged negotiation process because the salary cap for 2021 is unknown, meaning the make-up of their rosters is unclear at a time overseas clubs are targeting their stars. All of the nominations for the RA chairman role and vacant board spots will be announced on Monday. It’s now inevitable that the new chairman and board members will play an integral role in the outcome of the broadcast discussions, given they’ll be appointed at the annual general meeting on March 30, just a fortnight after any offers will be fielded. The only interested free-to-air network for rugby rights, 10, is expected to offer $5 million a year for Wallabies Tests and one live Super Rugby match on Saturday nights. The rest of the code’s broadcast money will need to come from a pay-TV or streaming network, but the underwhelming response since RA went to market has heightened fears the game is facing major losses. The Daily TelegraphOne thing to keep in mind; the DT is a Murdoch rag. And a league one at that.
