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African Monkey

Good luck winning any turover ball with him as your no.7.

ulsterman

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Good luck winning any turover ball with him as your no.7.
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He is probably the best genuine openside in England at the minute . . .

Derm McCrum

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Sounds like some drums have been beating for Brendan O'Connor to be England's new fetcher.
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Something looks odd reading that a bloke named Brendon Ryan O'Connor is qualified though his grandmother for England??

mariner4life

I saw a good stink just now, i assume it's from France. French rugby is great for an old-fashioned all-in

Tim

Ali Williams is Dan Carter's new media manager?
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/07/dan-carter-all-blacks-ali-williams-minder-racing-92-northampton-european-champions-cup'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/07/dan-carter-all-blacks-ali-williams-minder-racing-92-northampton-european-champions-cup</a>

nostrildamus

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Something looks odd reading that a bloke named Brendon Ryan O'Connor is qualified though his grandmother for England??
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With first name and last name initials like that he should be playing for South Africa..

gollum

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Ali Williams is Dan Carter's new media manager?
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/07/dan-carter-all-blacks-ali-williams-minder-racing-92-northampton-european-champions-cup'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/07/dan-carter-all-blacks-ali-williams-minder-racing-92-northampton-european-champions-cup</a>
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Makes sense, Ali clearly speaks French.
 
By speaking English slowly, it a sort of French accent
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.rugbyonslaught.com/2015/06/ali-williams-does-speaking-english-in.html'>http://www.rugbyonslaught.com/2015/06/ali-williams-does-speaking-english-in.html</a>

Derm McCrum

Irish rugby having to contend with a lot of English and French cash sloshing around and getting players contracts renewed and keeping them with the provinces. 
 
Lots of rumours flying around about players such as Madigan (who reportedly has an offer of â‚¬500k on the table from English first division side, Bristol. Premiership side, Harlequins are also inquiring as well as two French clubs. Other players like O'Brien, Murray, Henshaw, Healy are up for negotiations. Ideally, the IRFU can offer them revised terms and possibly move them around the provinces to ensure more first choice games, and balance out some of the stocks with Leinster supply too many players to the test squad. With foreign player quotas reducing again, the importance of bringing through players from each of the provinces academies can't be understated. But the last line in the article is disappointing in seeking to find a scrum-half in NZ and gaining him through residency. There's an Irish scrum-half, John Hart, playing abroad in France for Grenoble in the Top 14, under his Irish coach, Bernard Jackman. He's only 22/23, the IRFU/Leinster should target him.
 
The following report in The Irish Times gives a useful update on what might be happening in the various negotiations led by Performance Director, David Nucifora. 
 
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Ian Madigan, who is out of contract with Leinster this summer, is waiting to hear from the IRFUâ€™s high performance director David Nucifora, with an offer from Bristol worth â‚¬500,000 a season already on the table. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho 

The <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_organisation=IRFU&article=true'>IRFU</a> want <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Ian Madigan&article=true'>Ian Madigan</a> to join Munster next season. Thatâ€™s presuming they keep the 26-year-old in Ireland by coming close to matching lucrative offers from English and French clubs. 
Madigan, who is out of contract with <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_organisation=Leinster&article=true'>Leinster</a> this summer, is awaiting a formal offer from the unionâ€™s high performance director David Nucifora after Bristol tabled â‚¬500,000 a season for the place-kicking outhalf-cum-inside centre.
 
Along with that deal offered by billionaire Stephen Lansdown, owner of Bristol Rugby and Bristol City FC, three other foreign clubs are seeking Madiganâ€™s signature. Harlequins currently look the most enticing option as he would be joining an established Premiership club to work alongside Conor Oâ€™Shea (Bristol are expected to be promoted from the Championship). 
â€œThe English clubs are now in play [financially] which probably wasnâ€™t the case even two or three years ago,â€ said <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Johnny Sexton&article=true'>Johnny Sexton</a>. â€œI think players have a decision to make. If you want to be starting for Ireland week in week out and looked after under the Irish system, you obviously need to stay here. 
â€œBut there are other guys who need to go and get game time and are obviously not going to get that in the provinces, so you wouldnâ€™t blame them for going abroad and getting that game time, and they might get more exposure there.â€
 The Irish Times can also confirm preliminary discussions have taken place with Madiganâ€™s representative and French clubs Bordeaux-Begles and Montpellier. 
Getting Madigan to sign his first national contract and join Anthony Foleyâ€™s Munster would mean Irelandâ€™s three outhalves at the World Cup â€“ Sexton in Leinster and Paddy Jackson in Ulster â€“ could all regularly feature in a provincial number 10 jersey next season. Munster lost outhalf JJ Hanrahan to Northampton last summer. 
 
The other major contracts currently being negotiated are Robbie Henshaw, Simon Zebo, Conor Murray, Cian Healy and SeÃ¡n Oâ€™Brien. Henshaw is believed to be Leinster-bound, especially if Madigan went to Munster, with Ben Teâ€™o almost certain to leave the province. 
 
The current exchange rate between euro and sterling (Â£1 to â‚¬1.39) severely weakens the negotiating positions of the IRFU and the provinces, particularly when enticing or keeping foreign players or established internationals.
 
â€œItâ€™s different for every player,â€ Sexton continued. â€œI can only speak for myself; I had two great years away and really enjoyed myself but the most important thing for me was playing for Ireland and I only realised that when I was gone.
 
â€œI wasnâ€™t able to do that to the best of my ability in terms of coming home for Six Nations and going back [to France] for games in between and not getting that rest between Six Nations matches.â€ 
Sexton was asked if a time would come when all Irish players who do go to England or France could expect to be called by the Ireland coach. 
â€œI was very lucky that I was still getting picked when I was abroad but is it worth some guys going and sacrificing two years to get game time? I donâ€™t know. Thatâ€™s questions for those guys. 
â€œThe best place for an Irish international is at home. Hopefully we will retain most of those guys â€“ hopefully all of them.â€ 
Henshawâ€™s proposed move to Dublin may also indirectly see a loosening of Leinsterâ€™s grip on their three international tightheads and overflowing backrow stocks.
 
 
Tadhg Furlong is signed up for two years but Mike Ross and Marty Moore are both soon to be out of contract. Last season Moore signed a one-year extension at the same time Ross got a single-season deal despite seeking two years.
 
However, the expected changing of the tighthead guard has yet to happen with Ireland or Leinster due to Mooreâ€™s injury profile and an Indian summer by Ross. 
One of them, probably Ross, could move to Galway should Rodney Ah You be redirected to Ulster. Ross is 36 this month but has stated his desire to continue playing next season. 
Regarding the Leinster backrow, Josh van der Flier has already made an impression in his first season on a professional contract, while Dan Leavy and Dominic Ryan are also waiting in line behind Rhys Ruddock, Jack Conan, <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.irishtimes.com/search/search-7.1213540?tag_person=Jamie Heaslip&article=true'>Jamie Heaslip</a>, Oâ€™Brien and Jordi Murphy.
 
Leinster have also narrowed down their search for a new scrumhalf to a three-man short list. The main recruiting area is New Zealand with a view to naturalising the player through residency. 
Isaac Boss and Eoin Reddan are both 35, while 22-year-old Luke McGrath has yet to dislodge the Irish internationals from Leo Cullenâ€™s starting XV.

Siam

DC starting for Racing outside the glacial service of Pikey Mikey
 
I'm quite keen to see how our world cup hero stacks up. I wouldn't complain if he just phoned it in but he's a bit classier than that. Reckon he might have to duck and weave off the ball a bit though
 
He's got Casey Laulala, Roks and Masoe to help him out too
 
I guess Racing is my new favourite french club - previously it was "I couldn't give 2 fucks"

Stargazer

Thomas Waldrom was man of the match in the Exeter Chiefs' bonus point win over Clermont (31-14), having scored two tries. Last week, he scored a hat-trick. Makes me wonder, again, why he was not in the English RWC squad. He was a top try scorer last year, too.
 
One of the two Clermont tries was scored by Hosea Gear.

Billy Tell

So I watched 4 games of European rugby in the weekend
 
Ulster - Toulouse
Racing 92 - Northampton
Munster - Leicester
Toulon - Leinster
 
Kiwis involved: Williams (Ulster), Flynn, McAlister (Toulouse), Tameifuna, Masoe, Carter, Laulala, Rococoko (Racing), Paterson (NH), Saili (Munster), Fitzgerald, O'Connor (Leicester), Nonu, Taylor (Toulon), Boss, Nacewa (Leinster)
 
Fat Nick Williams went OK for Ulster, got a try. McAlister was awful for Toulouse at 10. Carter went OK, but Rococoko was the best Kiwi there, Nonu was well managed by Leinster.

ulsterman

38-0, son! Kiss has reminded them that it's not just down to Pienaar and Jackson to pass. Marshall was spraying the ball about like . . . well not Super Rugby, but the closest we'll get.
 
The prospect of Piutau with front-foot ball arouses me.

Billy Tell

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Conrad leaves his old buddy grasping at thin air

Nepia

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Conrad leaves his old buddy grasping at thin air
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That's a bit rough on Ma'a TBF he did have have two men to mark.

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Conrad leaves his old buddy grasping at thin air
 
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Great stuff from Snakey. He's an excellent signing for Pau. Not Nonu's fault alone. He was left marking two men and was in the right place for the interception if Conrad had passed. More guilty are Matt Stevens (23) who was marking Conrad Smith on the open side and failed to track his run and Mamuka Gorgodze (6) who was stuck in a offside position.
 
Toulon won the game with Tom Taylor at fullback. Colin Slade was at 10.

mariner4life

I watched a bit of Top 14 on the weekend (SF v someone i had never heard of, played on an artificial pitch?), and some other game, Toulouse i think. The quality i saw was so poor. The game plans were basic, and the skills really lacking. I was actually bored watching rugby, and that normally only happens when i am watching the Brumbies or the Stormers. 
 
For SF Genia tried hard to create stuff, but with Morne Steyn at 10, it was not a match made in heaven.

rotated

I watched most of Toulon vs Toulouse last weekend and had much the same reaction as you all - very dour stuff.
 
I was very impressed with Nonu. He was unspectacular but it must be very hard for these guys heading into their 12th consecutive month of rugby after the biggest mental/physical challenge of their careers and to still be playing at a relatively high level.
 
James O'Connor appears to be a big deal over there while being the same player he was in Super Rugby - occasional attacking flair (I wouldn't go so far as to say "brilliance") mixed in with poor decision making and limited physicality. Tom Taylor impressed.

No Quarter

It's gonna suck not having those two in Black this year.

Tim

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I watched a bit of Top 14 on the weekend (SF v someone i had never heard of, played on an artificial pitch?), and some other game, Toulouse i think. The quality i saw was so poor. The game plans were basic, and the skills really lacking. I was actually bored watching rugby, and that normally only happens when i am watching the Brumbies or the Stormers. 
 
For SF Genia tried hard to create stuff, but with Morne Steyn at 10, it was not a match made in heaven. 
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Pure Brock James standing deep and kicking the ball constantly in an NPC game garbage.

Crazy Horse

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It'll be fine. Slade was only a bit player at best and Taylor hasn't pulled on the black jumper in a couple of years. We will hardly miss them.

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